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Old 09-09-2009, 06:28 PM
 
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Liked seeing the rating for Longwood. Well done.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:25 PM
 
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The following person posted on the above link provided and makes a VERY valid point (see below).

For some (all?) regents exams there are 4 ways to earn a 99...and only one way is a true 99%.

Students who earn a raw score of 81% have their grade inflated to a 94% on the grading score conversion chart.

Why??
Whats wrong with the 'old school' raw score...a score that reflects a child's TRUE mastery of content?!



seung
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August 3rd, 2009
1:35 pm
When will the NY times ever investigate how these tests are scored? For example, on this year's high school algebra exam - only 30 questions out of 87 were needed to score a scaled mark of 65%. So essentially, 35% correct is the new 65%. And this is happening at every grade level. Of course the "gap" between white and black students will decrease when we make 35% the standard for proficiency.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:31 AM
 
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I remember listening to a commentary on NPR about how the tests are actually being made easier so more kids can pass ( and show more improvement). Several people compared the NY state tests to equivalent tests in places like Hong-Kong, India, China and said they are a lot easier ( a 3rd grade test in Hong-Kong was the equivalent to 5th grade difficulty level in NY state tests). I do not remember if they compared to other states in US.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:47 AM
 
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Thats why these tests are junk. And who even says these tests are on par with California school tests. Its like no one even knows what the test is weighted or rated? The NY Times should look into that aspect then report back!


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I remember listening to a commentary on NPR about how the tests are actually being made easier so more kids can pass ( and show more improvement). Several people compared the NY state tests to equivalent tests in places like Hong-Kong, India, China and said they are a lot easier ( a 3rd grade test in Hong-Kong was the equivalent to 5th grade difficulty level in NY state tests). I do not remember if they compared to other states in US.
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:11 PM
 
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At one time the regents scores were true raw scores...BRING IT BACK!!

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Thats why these tests are junk. And who even says these tests are on par with California school tests. Its like no one even knows what the test is weighted or rated? The NY Times should look into that aspect then report back!
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Wellsville, Glurt County
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I never bother looking at anything except high school test scores. Even some of the worst districts in the state have decent elementary programs - and like others have mentioned, a lot of these tests are graded on such a ridiculous curve..... to the point where you'd have to actively try to fail one in order to get <65.

Every time NYC wants to pat it's own back they trot out the 3rd grade reading scores improvement or something meaningless. Take a look at how 99% of NYC high schools are doing on the regents for a more realistic portrait of the city's "much improved" education system. Same goes for the lower-tier LI schools....this list means absolutely nothing.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:42 PM
 
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I want the list that details exactly what colleges all of the graduates will attend or were accepted. Not the "competitive", "higly competitive" brackets but more like Harvard - 2 students, NYU - 10 students, etc...
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:44 AM
 
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Even HS test scores (AKA Regents Exams) are completely scaled.
So, like a previous poster said, if you perform at at 35-40%, that translate to a 65% on the regents exam...


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I never bother looking at anything except high school test scores. Even some of the worst districts in the state have decent elementary programs - and like others have mentioned, a lot of these tests are graded on such a ridiculous curve..... to the point where you'd have to actively try to fail one in order to get <65.

Every time NYC wants to pat it's own back they trot out the 3rd grade reading scores improvement or something meaningless. Take a look at how 99% of NYC high schools are doing on the regents for a more realistic portrait of the city's "much improved" education system. Same goes for the lower-tier LI schools....this list means absolutely nothing.
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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Even HS test scores (AKA Regents Exams) are completely scaled.
So, like a previous poster said, if you perform at at 35-40%, that translate to a 65% on the regents exam...
I took Regents exams in 1977-78. Were they scaled then?
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:32 AM
 
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Regents scores mean nothing. NY (and maybe CA?) are the only states that take them. What is the point? So that schools can have another criteria to rank on?
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