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Old 09-14-2009, 03:00 PM
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Default Can anyone shed some light on why "Brentwood, NY 11717" now appears to be "Edgewood, NY 11717" ???

In http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...questions.html, it came up that what had been the "Brentwood, NY 11717" ZIP Code postal zone now appears to be the "Edgewood, NY 11717" ZIP Code postal zone.

Can anyone shed some light on when this change in the name of the ZIP Code postal zone from "Brentwood" to "Edgewood" may have taken place?

Even though the ZIP Code postal zone may have had a name change, the Hamlet of Brentwood is still the Hamlet of Brentwood, and there is no Hamlet of Edgewood.

If there is going to be a change from the Hamlet of Brentwood to the Hamlet of Edgewood, my guess is that would not occur until the 2010 Census.
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Walter....your the "geography nut"... And your asking us? lol.
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When I looked at it on google maps it showed Edgewood as being upstate, with a zip 12450
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I think Edgewood LI is not an actual "city, town hamlet, etc." but the name for a mostly light industrial/business section within for zip code purposes but actually west of Brentwood proper, immediately east of the "Pine Aire" section, east of Deer Park and north of "Bay Wood" on google maps (which itself is north of Bay Shore). It seems that google maps sometimes puts a circle on the map with a neighborhood name that actually resides within something else.

If NOT, and Brentwood is actually changing its name, then I think that is a way to try and escape the dubious reputation that much of Brentwood has and attract new buyers who don't know/won't recognize what is going on.
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i dont think its possible for a town to change their name...when was the last name change on long island?
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i dont think its possible for a town to change their name...when was the last name change on long island?

In the absence of a new village incorporating and taking a new name, different from the hamlet or hamlets from which it had been part of, hamlet name changes are usually concomitant with the Census.

Concomitant with the 2000 Census, the Hamlets of Tuckahoe and Northampton in the Town of Southampton, Suffolk County were created.

The Hamlet of "North" Southampton (what had been Southampton unincorporated) was renamed Tuckahoe, and, in addition, land from the Hamlet of Shinnecock Hills was transferred to the newly named Hamlet of Tuckahoe.

The Hamlet of Northampton was created from the west and northwest part of the Hamlet of Riverside. Actually, Riverside parted with so much area to create Northampton that Riverside is now smaller than the newly created Northampton.
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Walter, I think you may have stumbled across some little-documented minutae related to the USPS addressing system. Awhile back, I noticed some real estate sites list "alternatives" for USPS mailing cities attached to ZIP codes. Sometimes, these are listed as "acceptable alternatives" and "non-acceptable alternatives". If I had to guess, these are antiquated mailing addresses....tied to now-forgotten place names and real estate developments - but at one time officially used by the post office.

If I put my home address (in the Wantagh, NY 11793 ZIP code) into the Census Bureau's FactFinder using "North Wantagh, NY" or "Briar Park, NY" (both commonly listed as alternatives) with no zip code at all - it will still come up with the proper data that would appear had I used "Wantagh, NY". If I try some other place (Bellmore, or WNATAHG, etc.) it doesn't work. It also appears to only work with place names ushered in since the dawn of ZIP codes. For instance, I tried "Jerusalem, NY" - a name I know my area was known by and had a post office named as such until the 1920s - but it didn't work.

FYI - There was an Edgewood Psychiatric Center nearly identical to the one in Kings Park located on a now vacant tract of land in eastern Deer Park from the 1930s until the late 80s. I'm not sure if the hospital itself spawned the name "Edgewood" or if it was named for the surrounding community....but in any case, it's very possible that postage to the hospital was addressed as "Edgewood, NY" or even that it had it's own post office that was a sub-station of Brentwood's.
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If I put my home address (in the Wantagh, NY 11793 ZIP code) into the Census Bureau's FactFinder using "North Wantagh, NY" or "Briar Park, NY" (both commonly listed as alternatives) with no zip code at all - it will still come up with the proper data that would appear had I used "Wantagh, NY".

sean sean sean sean, if I plug in "51 Mercedes Way" for Street Address in either "Edgewood" or "Brentwood" for City and "New York" for State, or leave out both the "City" and "State" and just use the ZIP Code 11717, in the Census Bureau's online address search function, all 3 times it comes back as, "51 Mercedes Way , Edgewood , New York, 11717" in the "Brentwood" CDP.
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In the absence of a new village incorporating and taking a new name, different from the hamlet or hamlets from which it had been part of, hamlet name changes are usually concomitant with the Census.

Concomitant with the 2000 Census, the Hamlets of Tuckahoe and Northampton in the Town of Southampton, Suffolk County were created.

The Hamlet of "North" Southampton (what had been Southampton unincorporated) was renamed Tuckahoe, and, in addition, land from the Hamlet of Shinnecock Hills was transferred to the newly named Hamlet of Tuckahoe.

The Hamlet of Northampton was created from the west and northwest part of the Hamlet of Riverside. Actually, Riverside parted with so much area to create Northampton that Riverside is now smaller than the newly created Northampton.
Tuckahoe was around much earlier than 2000. As far back as the 1970s, there was a "Tuckahoe" sign on Rte. 27 that indicated you had entered the hamlet.
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