GC Stabbing? (Hempstead, Franklin Square, Garden City: landscaping, neighborhood, catholic schools)

[Walter Greenspan]

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A map of the Village of Garden City in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County:


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[spidaman]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

First off, I don't think we need to go out and buy shotguns at this point. I do believe GC police will wake up and start policing the border with more urgency. Anytime you have million dollar homes next to bodegas, there is going to be an issue, so police need to have more of a presence there.

Oooom..the best thing to do is go to the Board of Trustee meetings of GC. They are open to all residents and you can certainly say your peace there. I'd also write to the Mayor about your concerns.

I do believe that GC has a vested interest in helping Hempstead. I've done volunteer work there. I encourage other residents of GC to do the same. Get your kids involved too. If we all do our part, we could help that town much more. A more stable Hempstead means a safer GC.

Finally, we have to pressure local politicians more on the illegal immigration front. There are a number of techniques we should be using:

1. Pushing politicians to enforce zoning codes and bring down the flophouses.
2. Pushing employers to employ legal immigrants. How many of you ask your contractors the status of their employees? We can't avoid this anymore.
3. For God's sake, do your own lawn. I'm one of only 2 people on my entire block that does their own lawn. Can you imagine the amount of illegal and exploited labor we could cut out if even 25% of people did their own lawn?

Kudos to you Azzurrony!

[azzurrony]

Riddlemethis,

There's no doubt we have our fair share of HS brats in our town. Some of these kids have parties, some drink, and some do drugs. But, frankly, that is easy work for any police department worth its salt as long as the conduct is reported.

GC's borders with Stewart Manor, Garden City South, NH Park, and Garden City Park are really tame. There just isn't that much dangerous work to do. I think of my area, the Estates Section, and the biggest issue is the speeding on Stewart Ave...which they can't even control.

Ok, that's bad enough, but the GC police really are paid to police the Hempstead border in the Southeast section. I'm sorry, but they have to have some blame here. If there was indeed a fight going on outside on Meadow St., then there should have been some police presence there. Yes, the people need to look outside their windows, but it sounds like some did. Frankly, I think a patrol car should be going up and down Meadow St. a few times an hour if not more.

Clearly, the murderers didn't give a damn if they were in GC when they stabbed that guy. Why? Probably because they don't see enough GC police presence and know they are over at Dunkin Donuts having a Boston Cream Donut.

[azzurrony]

Reggyn

That's Sean Sean Sean's favorite group

[reggyn]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

Reggyn

That's Sean Sean Sean's favorite group

And mines too, LoL.

[twingles]

Originally Posted by TVR1997

Yes, but does Hempstead (and its residents) have a vested interest in helping themselves.

I still can't fault the police here. Was the person murdered in Hempstead and dumped in Garden City?....I mean its dark at 9:00 P.M. do people babysit their window and watch for nefarious activity every evening? And because there's train stations nearby, if someone is walking at 9PM at night it would not be completely out of the ordinary. Garden City won't lose some its luster because of this, esp if the crime was committed outside its borders but let's not fool ourselves and pretend Hempstead is on its way to recovery. Tis not. But I do think that GC will step up its presence tenfold here.....residents will not and should not tolerate this, you pay GC prices for a reason.

I agree. Hempstead will never come back because the people who live there don't give a darn about it.

Personally, I have no interest in seeing the GC police devote any more manpower to that side of town. People who live there like it and people who are buying there don't believe that there's a problem, then they want special protection when they see it's really true what people have been saying??? Forget it. That's just going to lead to more cries of racial profiling and suits by ACORN. And a resident stated that they saw a police car on the block earlier that evening. What else are the police supposed to do - set up a roadblock? I live on the west side of town, I deserve a police presence too. No one is calling for the Hempstead Village police to patrol THEIR OWN VILLAGE more/better - why? The incident at CJ Wellington's is probably meaningless to someone who lives in the Mott, Northeast or Eastern Section, but it IS meaningful to me, becuase that is close to ME. It's also meaningful to me that the HS kids are becoming a problem in town because it just diverts the police from other pressing matters. It's not whether they can "handle it" or not - it's that they have to at all. Add to that the old timers who call the police every time an appliance goes on the fritz, a cat gets stuck in a storm drain or a kid gets locked in a car and that's just more stuff diverting their attention. Then there are all the DWI arrests - they MAKE money for the village, so they aren't going to stop doing that.

[reggyn]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

I do believe that GC has a vested interest in helping Hempstead. I've done volunteer work there. I encourage other residents of GC to do the same. Get your kids involved too. If we all do our part, we could help that town much more. A more stable Hempstead means a safer GC.

In all seriousness I agree with you 100% on this. GC has a vested interest in seeing Hempstead succeed. That type of violence will eventually reach a boiling point and will spill over to other communities whether it be murders, muggings, home invasions, or stray bullets flying. Anybody can be a victim.

[ooom416354]

Originally Posted by twingles

I agree. Hempstead will never come back because the people who live there don't give a darn about it.

Personally, I have no interest in seeing the GC police devote any more manpower to that side of town. People who live there like it and people who are buying there don't believe that there's a problem, then they want special protection when they see it's really true what people have been saying??? Forget it. That's just going to lead to more cries of racial profiling and suits by ACORN. And a resident stated that they saw a police car on the block earlier that evening. What else are the police supposed to do - set up a roadblock? I live on the west side of town, I deserve a police presence too. No one is calling for the Hempstead Village police to patrol THEIR OWN VILLAGE more/better - why? The incident at CJ Wellington's is probably meaningless to someone who lives in the Mott, Northeast or Eastern Section, but it IS meaningful to me, becuase that is close to ME. It's also meaningful to me that the HS kids are becoming a problem in town because it just diverts the police from other pressing matters. It's not whether they can "handle it" or not - it's that they have to at all. Add to that the old timers who call the police every time an appliance goes on the fritz, a cat gets stuck in a storm drain or a kid gets locked in a car and that's just more stuff diverting their attention. Then there are all the DWI arrests - they MAKE money for the village, so they aren't going to stop doing that.

I grew up in FS and just moved to GC. FS or the garden city south area is definately not nearly as bad as the hempstead border. but still the GC police should patrol every border, good or bad, as equally as possible just to make sure that things like this dont happen in any section.
I knew i was buying in an area that was close to a neighboring town which wasn't exactly the greatest but after talking with lots and lots of people and also checking the home values and the amount of young kids in the area it made sense to buy there. the only thing I didn't anticipate was a dead body showing up on someone's lawn. same goes for the incident at CJ's for the people living in the west. i mean you can't keep all that riff raff out but i think a little more prescence the borders would be beneficial to all who live in the village.

[azzurrony]

Twingles,

To be fair, CJ Wellington is well over a half mile from the GC border. Plus, Franklin Square is paradise compared to Hempstead. There really is no comparison. I live closer to you as you know, but I still would push for more GC patrols in the Southeast section. Let's face it...if they go downhill...we all go downhill. In other words, if the Southeast section faces higher crime, and real estate values drop...that negatively affects all of us.

I don't care about liberal politicians crying about profiling. They are dead wrong in this instance. I'll defend that stance til the cows come home. As for ACORN, they have zero credibility left after their fiasco.

As for the HS kids, that's really the job of parents to police. If parents are so absent in their kids lives that they are allowed to turn into vodka chugging zombies, then shame on them. There is only so much the police can do.

(I do agree about the old timers though. They called the cops on me my first weekend moving in because I hadn't cleared the ice off the sidewalk quickly enough LOL).

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by I_Love_LI_but

I am sorry to hear of this, but it just goes to illustrate what I have been saying for a long time: We, LI'ers, need to get the illegal alien/central american gangbanger problem under control! We live in an interconnected community. Just because they are in certain areas and most of us don't live there, it affects us too. Garden City certainly cannot be walled off like a kingdom with a moat around it for good measure. At this point they usually attack their "own" or attack anyone unlucky enough to be within their territorial lines. What happens when they start attacking the GC residents and the person who is found dead is not an outsider, but is found dead on his/her own lawn?

We know from another recent Newsday story that a landscaper turned against his own customers and sent illegal aliens to rob and attack them.

Sadly, when Homeland Security attempted to help clean up the problem in Nassau, all they got was criticism for being "too rough" on the illegal aliens and their harborers.

For all the limousine liberals out there, I got news. You better live in a bona fide gated community with guards or your ivory tower may very well have problems too.

Then will you be so sympathetic? I doubt it. As the old joke goes, "What is the definition of a conservative?" Answer: "A liberal who has been mugged."

When will we have had enough and take back LI for all legal residents (native born, naturalized and immigrants alike)?

Before we start jumping to all sorts of conclusions on who is to blame we do not even know the identity of the suspect in this case or much about the victim either for that matter.