GC Stabbing? (Hempstead, Garden City, Roslyn Heights: home, construction, living)

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

Twingles,

To be fair, CJ Wellington is well over a half mile from the GC border. Plus, Franklin Square is paradise compared to Hempstead. There really is no comparison. I live closer to you as you know, but I still would push for more GC patrols in the Southeast section. Let's face it...if they go downhill...we all go downhill. In other words, if the Southeast section faces higher crime, and real estate values drop...that negatively affects all of us.

I don't care about liberal politicians crying about profiling. They are dead wrong in this instance. I'll defend that stance til the cows come home. As for ACORN, they have zero credibility left after their fiasco.

As for the HS kids, that's really the job of parents to police. If parents are so absent in their kids lives that they are allowed to turn into vodka chugging zombies, then shame on them. There is only so much the police can do.

(I do agree about the old timers though. They called the cops on me my first weekend moving in because I hadn't cleared the ice off the sidewalk quickly enough LOL).

I understand where you are coming from, and have no problem with more of a presence along the border of the villages. But, what exactly do you want the cops to do? Stare down, follow, and/or stop those whose skin complexion doesn't match the vast majority of Garden City residents?

[twingles]

Originally Posted by Smash255

I understand where you are coming from, and have no problem with more of a presence along the border of the villages. But, what exactly do you want the cops to do? Stare down, follow, and/or stop those whose skin complexion doesn't match the vast majority of Garden City residents?

Exactly. We've been down that road before in GC.

I would say an armed robbery a half mile from anyone's house, even if a rare occurrence, is a problem. The point is, the problems creep ever closer, no matter where you live.

I also still don't know what exactly "patrol the border" means to you. I think Smash hit the nail on the head with that problem.

As far as the HS kids, you haven't lived here that long, and don't have older kids. The parents in this town DO NOT police their kids. That's the genesis of the problem. I know someone who found kids partying in her backyard last year, and they wouldn't leave, even when the cops came. That's pretty ballsy, you ask me. The cops had to physically remove them. This is what takes up their time.

[I_Love_LI_but]

Originally Posted by Smash255

Before we start jumping to all sorts of conclusions on who is to blame we do not even know the identity of the suspect in this case or much about the victim either for that matter.

Okay, I will link arms with you and we can merrily skip along the high road together for now.

But I think there is a better than average chance that my low expectations (i.e., this is a gangbanger blood feud that spilled over into GC) will be confirmed.

[azzurrony]

Originally Posted by twingles

Exactly. We've been down that road before in GC.

I would say an armed robbery a half mile from anyone's house, even if a rare occurrence, is a problem. The point is, the problems creep ever closer, no matter where you live.

I also still don't know what exactly "patrol the border" means to you. I think Smash hit the nail on the head with that problem.

As far as the HS kids, you haven't lived here that long, and don't have older kids. The parents in this town DO NOT police their kids. That's the genesis of the problem. I know someone who found kids partying in her backyard last year, and they wouldn't leave, even when the cops came. That's pretty ballsy, you ask me. The cops had to physically remove them. This is what takes up their time.

Twingles,

I'm not minimizing the robbery. It's just that it is different than having a person stabbed on your lawn. Franklin Sq is generally a nice place. I go there for a lot of my Italian food items. While incidents in Franklin Sq are rare, the crime in Hempstead is . Therefore, I think it stands to reason that the Southeast section of GC needs a little more help than we do.

To me, patrol the border means making your presence felt. They don't need to pull over everyone they see. Just drive back and forth enough where thugs can see you are there all the time. If people of any race are dressed like thugs walking through the neighborhood, the police should stop them and ask them where they are going and if they need any help. It's really not that hard to make your presence felt without being accused of profiling.

As for the kids, you are right, I don't know them as well as you do. I'm sure they aren't all brats, but there will be plenty of them. Frankly, all of LI has spoiled kids with an entitlement mentality. I just have to do the best job I can as a parent of teaching values for my kids. Maybe I need to send them to St. Anne's or other Catholic schools. Who knows. I'm going to keep a close eye on the situation though. Money + free time + busy parents = trouble.

[Johninwestbury]

I am always amazed at how beautiful Garden City looks, being so close to Hempstead. Yet this doesn't suprise me as it is close to Hempstead. Alot of folks in GC think they can keep the riff-raff out, but the best way to keep Garden City a great place to live is to straighten out the out of control situation in Hempstead. Hempstead needs a major cleanup, I think it's worse than its ever been, some of the worst spots, like Clinton Ave border Garden City. Garden City residents can do their part by not hiring illegal day laborers, which actually are steered to Hempstead for landscaping jobs in Garden City.
The Village of Hempstead needs to shut down illegal rooming houses where these people live. But of course nobody wants to crack down on it for fear of being labeled a racist.
And Hempstead is controlled by illegals that the government there wont go against them.
Hempstead needs a major revitilization. Perhaps this is where the Lighthouse project SHOULD be. Its already close to public transportation. All we need is the village to start condemning these disgusting bodegas and strips in downtown Hempstead. But like I said, that probably wont happen because the politicians there want their vote. They are counting on amnesty.
It will always amaze me how one of the most beautiful towns on Long Island, lies next to one of the worst. The Garden City police force earns every dollar they make. Too bad NCPD cant follow suit and push the riff-raff out of the rest of the county.

[spidaman]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

I am always amazed at how beautiful Garden City looks, being so close to Hempstead. Yet this doesn't suprise me as it is close to Hempstead. Alot of folks in GC think they can keep the riff-raff out, but the best way to keep Garden City a great place to live is to straighten out the out of control situation in Hempstead. Hempstead needs a major cleanup, I think it's worse than its ever been, some of the worst spots, like Clinton Ave border Garden City. Garden City residents can do their part by not hiring illegal day laborers, which actually are steered to Hempstead for landscaping jobs in Garden City.
The Village of Hempstead needs to shut down illegal rooming houses where these people live. But of course nobody wants to crack down on it for fear of being labeled a racist.
And Hempstead is controlled by illegals that the government there wont go against them.
Hempstead needs a major revitilization. Perhaps this is where the Lighthouse project SHOULD be. Its already close to public transportation. All we need is the village to start condemning these disgusting bodegas and strips in downtown Hempstead. But like I said, that probably wont happen because the politicians there want their vote. They are counting on amnesty.
It will always amaze me how one of the most beautiful towns on Long Island, lies next to one of the worst. The Garden City police force earns every dollar they make. Too bad NCPD cant follow suit and push the riff-raff out of the rest of the county.

Hempstead was in better shape when it was a predominantly black town. Not saying it was the greatest place to be but better than what it is now. Most of the good blacks have moved out and the illegals have now turned it into a third world cess pool.

[hotkarl]

Hempstead will never change. It may not get worse, it may even improve slightly, but I don't see a major transformation ever. I think it will just linger in it's current state give or take a statistic or 2.

[rocafeller05]

10-4. Its way long gone!

Originally Posted by hotkarl

Hempstead will never change. It may not get worse, it may even improve slightly, but I don't see a major transformation ever. I think it will just linger in it's current state give or take a statistic or 2.

[azzurrony]

Hotkarl,

You are probably right. Without artists, hipsters, musicians, etc. moving in to change the community, Hempstead will probably never change. The problem is...that crowds wants to be close to the city..where the action is. They might move to a nasty part of Brooklyn and change it up, but they probably aren't going to come all the way to Hempstead.

Now, if LIRR actually had some real express trains on the Hempstead line, that's another story. Hempstead is about 19 miles from the city or less, and yet it takes them easily 50 minutes to get home. That's going to be a problem when you are trying to attract young professionals, young couples, artists, hipsters, etc. to the village.

[hotkarl]

Hempstead is the dead horse. Nothing will ever make a magical turn around.
It is what it is. And always will be.
And it is a darn shame.

There are some absolutely gorgeous old homes throughout Hempstead that are just wasting away.