Nassau County residents: who do you hope wins the Suozzi-Mangano recount? (Garden City: house, school districts)

[azzurrony]

Smash,

You can only use the ghost of Gullotta for so long. 8 years have passed. From your post, one might think Mangano and Gullotta are currently lovers. LOL Did you ever think Suozzi might lose because of his own record rather than because voters love Mangano?

I'm glad you mentioned how partisan you are because I personally have never read a post where you were critical of someone with a (D) next to their name.

[I_Love_LI_but]

Originally Posted by Smash255

The problem with that thinking is if Mangano hasn't changed, (and his tenure in the Legislature the last few years has given us no reason to believe he is any different than he was when Gullotta was in office) by the time we get to the next election it might be too late we could be right back to where we were at the junk bond level.

I know you aren't a fan of Suozzi and granted I will admit I am quite partisan, but if the GOP was offering up someone fresh who didn't have the ties to the old guard, while I might still disagree with your vote I could least understand where it was coming from. However, what I don't understand is voting for someone with such close ties to Gullotta, when you felt that despite not really liking Suozzi that he did a better job than Gullotta.

Do you think it's impossible that Suozzi could turn our paper into junk? I don't.

I don't feel Suozzi did a better job than Gullotta except for one thing ... we are no longer junk bonds for the moment.

Suozzi already tried to abandon us anyway because he thought he could weasel his way into even more powerful places. He's only here because he has no better cow to milk at the moment, not because of any loyalty to his non-wealthy, non-corporate constituents.

[I_Love_LI_but]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

Smash,

You can only use the ghost of Gullotta for so long. 8 years have passed. From your post, one might think Mangano and Gullotta are currently lovers. LOL Did you ever think Suozzi might lose because of his own record rather than because voters love Mangano?

I'm glad you mentioned how partisan you are because I personally have never read a post where you were critical of someone with a (D) next to their name.

You hit the nail on the head with that one!

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

Smash,

You can only use the ghost of Gullotta for so long. 8 years have passed. From your post, one might think Mangano and Gullotta are currently lovers. LOL Did you ever think Suozzi might lose because of his own record rather than because voters love Mangano?

I'm glad you mentioned how partisan you are because I personally have never read a post where you were critical of someone with a (D) next to their name.

As far as the ghosts of Gullotta, well it quite frankly depends on the candidates themselves. When Gullotta was in charge our bond ratings were junk, we were facing deficits of over $400 million and we almost had our finances taken over by New York State.

If the GOP was running a candidate who wasn't directly tied to the Gullotta administration then obviously the Gullotta comparisons would have no place in the argument. However Mangano was one of Gullotta's closest allies when he was County Executive, so it is relevant to the discussion. To ignore it would be ignoring Mangano's own record in the legislature.

[hotkarl]

Originally Posted by Smash255

When Gullotta was in charge our bond ratings were junk, we were facing deficits of over $400 million and we almost had our finances taken over by New York State.

Yeah, but life was good!

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by hotkarl

Yeah, but life was good!

That makes the bumbling of the Gullotta administration and his allies even more astonishing.

[azzurrony]

Smash,

This is typical guilt by association. It's the same logic used to paint all Republicans at the national level as clones of Bush.

Let's see what Mangano does as a county executive. If he repeals the energy tax, freezes the assessment system, and fires some of Suozzi's buddies, then he'll be off to a great start. Suozzi's buddies cost us 22 million a year. I'm sure we can find better uses for that money.

If he's a clone of Suozzi or worse, then I'll be the first to vote him out next election.

By the way, I'm still waiting for an answer on which Democrats you would throw under the bus.

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

Smash,

This is typical guilt by association. It's the same logic used to paint all Republicans at the national level as clones of Bush.

Let's see what Mangano does as a county executive. If he repeals the energy tax, freezes the assessment system, and fires some of Suozzi's buddies, then he'll be off to a great start. Suozzi's buddies cost us 22 million a year. I'm sure we can find better uses for that money.

If he's a clone of Suozzi or worse, then I'll be the first to vote him out next election.

By the way, I'm still waiting for an answer on which Democrats you would throw under the bus.

As far as it being guilt by association, well when your voting record in the Legislature matched Gullotta well...... For the Republicans in the national level, if you stood up to Bush more than once in a blue moon and didn't vote with him on the vast majority of issues you generally will not be painted as a clone of Bush. However, if your voting record is practically the same, and don't call him out you will be viewed as a clone. The same is true regarding Republicans in the County Legislature under Gullotta. If you speak out against him from time to time and didn't support Gullotta's every whim then you won't be called a clone, but when you support him at every turn and always take his side as Managano did, well you will be called a clone.

As far as the Energy tax. The GOP legislature was asked numerous time, well what are you going to cut. They had no answer. Mangano during the campaign was asked what will you cut to make up for the Home Energy Tax, again no answer. As far as the so called $22 million, the county work force is much smaller than it was 8 years ago...

To answer the second part of your question, I'm not the biggest fan of Levy and would like to see Gillibrand get a Primary challenge, though no one on the GOP side that I can think of I would vote for over her, I also do not like Paterson.

Anyway same question to you since I have barely seen you badmouth anyone in the GOP, What Republicans would you throw under the bus?

[azzurrony]

I can help u with that list. Frank, Rangel, and Dodd should probably be in jail. Pelosi and Reid are just morons who are overreaching.

As for Republicans, GWB for his spending, Delay for his corruption, and morons like Ensign and Sanford for their sheer stupidity.

Locally pigs like Gullotta Santino and Scarleta make my skin crawl.

[hotkarl]

Santino and Murray are like Batman and Robin