Obama Junk Food Ban (Union: elementary school, colleges, plantations)

[DeadPool1998]

Originally Posted by firefighter55

Accountability can and does exist outside of the federal government. No one here is saying let kids in poor municipalities learn in substandard conditions. The issue is whether the federal government needs to get involved on a localized issue. You say yes because it fits your ideology. At the end of the day, I say I want the accountability and control at the lowest possible level, where my vote counts the most. I'm not going to get into a flaming war with you, because I see how you acted towards other posters.

When people write silly things, I write silly replies.

Yours wasn't quite as silly, but it is ignorant of history. I don't mind the notion of local control, but you and I know that it has been abused throughout history. Example? The southern states didn't have public schools until after the Civil War. Their culture is largely influenced by the a-religious ethos that existed there prior to the first great awakening when northern Christian preachers spread the word there. The Christian ethic of the north was a reading-based one. What went south was more provincial that both didn't trust book and smarts, but didn't require any knowledge in order to preach. The north taught their women and education quickly became universal. In the south, it was always resisted - still is. Even in southern colleges, the female/male gap is more pronounced because men don't see gettin' all booked up as very masculine. Women don't care.

When states started forming West of Pennsylvania, the federal government gave land away provided a percentage of that land would be used for schools. This was the start of public schools, and the federal government caused it in these new states (e.g., Illinois, Indiana). This is what a "land-grant" institution is; we tend to think of colleges, but it also applies to early local elementary schools.

So, if it wasn't for federal educational tyranny and redistribution, the only states getting educations would be in New England. Rich kids in the south would probably still be getting home schooled on their plantations.

The blanket idea that big government is harmful is ignorant, and I mean that in the nicest way. Refusing to subsidize fat sales to children is not harmful, and I refuse to believe that it is a slipperly slope to a new socialist national arrangement.

[firefighter55]

dramatic.

You are comparing southern states not having public schools to a ban on junk food in vending machines? Yikes you really missed the point. No one is saying the federal government should have no role in our lives, the question is the extent. In my eyes the federal government should be the ceo, setting strategic direction for the country. Not the pesky assistant to the regional manager micromanaging my every move.

[Gpsma]

No, he is simply showing that he is a public employee.

[DeadPool1998]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

No, he is simply showing that he is a public employee.

While clever, you are wrong.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

No, he is simply showing that he is a public employee.

And you guys say I call people names.

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by dman72

And you guys say I call people names.

Guess in your mind defining someone as a Public Employee is wrong

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by DeadPool1998

While clever, you are wrong.

Let's see..

Union member..
Clergy..
Professor of Liberal Arts..

Am I getting close?

[Sunny H]

Banning unhealth foods at school is such a great idea! Good for Michele Obama.

Some parents have no idea what to fed their kids or are too lazy to feed them healthy foods, so the kids grow up with no idea of what they should be eating. I still remember the ripple of surprise on a class trip when at lunch a kid opened her lunch box to put a chocolate pudding, a chocolate drink, a chocolate bar and some cookies - guess what kind - on the table, and that was all her Mom had packed. We gently asked her if her Mom had forgotten to pack a sandwich and were told that no, this was what she usually had for lunch.

She happily took and ate one of the extra sandwiches we all offered her, so it wasn't because the kid wouldn't eat healthy food. She just had an idiot for a mother.

[DeadPool1998]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Let's see..

Union member..
Clergy..
Professor of Liberal Arts..

Am I getting close?

"Union Member" casts a wide net. Heck, that could mean anything from a longshoreman to a casket-builder. Or a cop, firefighter - you know - 9-11 heroes.

Clergy? I suppose. I mean, they believe in the sanctity of life and not letting people live in misery.

I suppose that I possess knowledge is indicative of book reading. I'm flattered by "Professor of Liberal Arts."

You know why universities carry maces in the graduation ceremony? Because medieval universities had to beat back the rubes when proceeding through the streets. For real!

[Gpsma]

Lawyer fits the bill.