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A nice happy median would be to make money, but not enough to have 20,000 applicants for something like 100 slots.
Yes! Too bad there's always that urge to totally destroy whoever is on the less powerful side (management or union) that results in one side getting the short end of the stick. God forbid they try and "be fair" to the less powerful side.
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Originally Posted by littlelamb3
As a former teacher,(in private) I do believe schools should get rid of teachers that are not good. I don't think their salaries are that high considering you need a MA and it is not an easy job(unlike the police who get paid more with little education) It is administrators and supers(and believe it or not, head janitors and heads of lunch service get a starting salary of 110k a year) that are overpaid. In over 20 yrs of teaching, I never made more than 45k (private). SO, keep the competent teachers and their salaries, it is the other waste in the districts that are taking all of your tax money
That salary for that education and experience level is WAY TOO LOW. Why? Management is taking terrible advantage of the workers! Yet when it comes to unionized public school teachers, the unions, in collusion with the administrators and school boards, are taking terrible advantage of the taxpayers. It reminds me of how, instead of actually governing this country, the Republicans and Democrats spend most of their time playing power games with each other to the DETRIMENT of the people in this country.
It's not about the education level or how "hard" the job is. It's about the ability to find a competitive replacement. If I can fire an employ that makes 100k and replace them with someone that can do the same job for 50k why would I not do that? A very telling figure that a lot of employers will use to gauge whether their salary is inline with the market is to see how many applications they get, given their pay offering. If they get hundreds of applications then they will lower their salary offer, if they get no applications then they will be forced to raise the salary offer.
You are right of course when it come to private companies but in the case of public unions particularly police and to a certain extent teachers it is just the opposite. Nassau and Suffolk police salaries only move in one direction regardless of the 10-20,000 applicants on the 3 year waiting list. I can only assume that there are many willing to risk the danger of the job.
It's not about the education level or how "hard" the job is. It's about the ability to find a competitive replacement. If I can fire an employ that makes 100k and replace them with someone that can do the same job for 50k why would I not do that?
Not to mention that tax payers have little say in the pay and benefits of the teachers.
What we've gotten in the past decade is an exodus of young couples, future tax payers, and runaway spending.
But aren't you glad a couple of politically connected UNIONS are able to heap more and more and more on their members (who are a MINORITY of the population of Nassau and Suffolk at large)? Isn't it all worth it for the rest of the taxpayers when it comes down to that?
Interesting that the UFTA wouldn't endorse Cuomo even though they have supported him in the past, I can only assume that would have been a death blow. That won't stop them from supporting the various other candidates because they need more funding from Albany for "the students".
Interesting that the UFTA wouldn't endorse Cuomo even though they have supported him in the past, I can only assume that would have been a death blow. That won't stop them from supporting the various other candidates because they need more funding from Albany for "the students".
They wouldn't because he endorses property tax caps which would severly impinge upon teachers ability to get outrageous raises and benefits.
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