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Old 05-20-2010, 10:24 PM
 
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Garden City is flooding with children. It's the Irish Italian Catholic affect This wasn't about a bunch of old people voting this down...believe me. This was about young couples who are tired of ridiculous taxes and who wanted to make a stand against the biggest portion of our tax bill...the schools.

Just look at the salaries above. Astonishing...and that's not even counting pension and medical benefits...or the fact those salaries are for 180 days of work.
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:40 PM
 
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Garden City is flooding with children. It's the Irish Italian Catholic affect This wasn't about a bunch of old people voting this down...believe me. This was about young couples who are tired of ridiculous taxes and who wanted to make a stand against the biggest portion of our tax bill...the schools.

Just look at the salaries above. Astonishing...and that's not even counting pension and medical benefits...or the fact those salaries are for 180 days of work.
No teacher works 180 days. The average teacher comes to work about 160 times a year after sick days, personal leave days, emergency days, illness in the family days, snow days etc etc.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don’t understand how these school districts can approve budget increases that are close to 4% and mainly due to the increase in teacher’s salaries and benefits. School boards have not done anything to reign in teachers contracts over the years and have allowed these abuses to continue. These districts are just pushing the problem down the line; when the federal funding runs out this year all these districts are going to have no choice but severe increase in budgets raising real estate taxes to double digits..
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:06 AM
 
Location: NHP, NY
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Interestingly, the link that CRV posted with all the salaries, Herricks was rather underpaid, so it cant be the teachers pay as to why it was voted down.
Why not?

As a voter in the Herricks SD, salary/benefit issues were my primary reason for voting "no".
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:58 AM
 
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Why not?

As a voter in the Herricks SD, salary/benefit issues were my primary reason for voting "no".
I suppose can't was a bad word. But it surprises me. Compared to other SD teachers in the list, Herricks teachers seemed to be at the lower end of the pay scale.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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I suppose can't was a bad word. But it surprises me. Compared to other SD teachers in the list, Herricks teachers seemed to be at the lower end of the pay scale.
That just means that pay is more egregious in those other districts, not necessarily that Herricks teachers are underpaid.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:32 AM
 
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I suppose can't was a bad word. But it surprises me. Compared to other SD teachers in the list, Herricks teachers seemed to be at the lower end of the pay scale.
I never thought about basing a vote on how the salary compares to other LI districts. It's like saying wow, I didn't think my 6000 sqft house is big because everyone around me has 8000 sqft houses. I just checked it out for 2008-2009, a bachelor degree starts at 51k+ and eventually makes over 100k and masters degree starts at a minimum of 61k+ depending on those educational credits and makes up to 120k. Add in pension, healthcare, and shorter and less days, I say that's much higher than a LI professional in the private sector (eg. computer scientists/engineers with master degrees). And, this is on the lower end of LI teacher payscale?? Can we say overpaid?!?

I'm more surprised that the budgets of sucky schools like roosevelt ever pass. Who in the right mind would want to pay $8000/yr for a 250k shack and a bad school district. There's quite a few of those areas on LI, and it just amazes me that people would pay that much!
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Why not?

As a voter in the Herricks SD, salary/benefit issues were my primary reason for voting "no".
Are you one of the people that gave me rep points and commented that it was your vote that shot down the budget? I have gotten a few rep point comments like that! Gotta luv em!
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I never thought about basing a vote on how the salary compares to other LI districts. It's like saying wow, I didn't think my 6000 sqft house is big because everyone around me has 8000 sqft houses. I just checked it out for 2008-2009, a bachelor degree starts at 51k+ and eventually makes over 100k and masters degree starts at a minimum of 61k+ depending on those educational credits and makes up to 120k. Add in pension, healthcare, and shorter and less days, I say that's much higher than a LI professional in the private sector (eg. computer scientists/engineers with master degrees). And, this is on the lower end of LI teacher payscale?? Can we say overpaid?!?

I'm more surprised that the budgets of sucky schools like roosevelt ever pass. Who in the right mind would want to pay $8000/yr for a 250k shack and a bad school district. There's quite a few of those areas on LI, and it just amazes me that people would pay that much!
I guess it's because they have to or they will lose their home to a tax lien. Hopefully there are many people who have lived there a long time and no longer have a mortgage on top of the RE taxes.

There probably isn't much of a market to sell homes in Roosevelt, what with the insane taxes and the bad school district.

And it once again goes to show that there is ABSOLUTELY NO MERITOCRACY when it comes to how teachers and administrators are compensated on LI. They still make out like bandits no matter how crappy their product is, don't they?
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:17 PM
 
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Roosevelt may be a very poorly rated School District but the teachers certainly get paid well for working about 160 days per year after sick days, personal leave days, emergency days off, illness in family days off, snow days etc etc. Really......a part time job!

Roosevelt USDF Harris Robert W $200,000
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Roosevelt USDF Wright Perletter $153,532
Roosevelt USDF Watson Lillian C $152,955
Roosevelt USDF Jones Michael C $144,480
Roosevelt USDF Stroughn Charlene T $142,298
Roosevelt USDF Charthern Patricia R $142,067
Roosevelt USDF Curcio John J $139,633
Roosevelt USDF Mompoint Yves $134,500
Roosevelt USDF Wynn Dionne $134,241
Roosevelt USDF Nikpour Mahyar $133,798
Roosevelt USDF Guido Franklin $131,479
Roosevelt USDF Antoine Maria C $131,263
Roosevelt USDF Pall Susan J $126,989
Roosevelt USDF Warmuth Carol A $125,186
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Roosevelt USDF Boben Joyce M $116,571
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Roosevelt USDF Hill Hannah J $115,639
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Roosevelt USDF Solomon Barbara A $114,902
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Roosevelt USDF Hairston Reginald K $113,861
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Roosevelt USDF Stubbs Gloria J $111,751
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Roosevelt USDF Beno Nanette B $110,283
Roosevelt USDF Fagin Christine $110,204
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Roosevelt USDF Wilkes Dawn P $110,103
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Roosevelt USDF Mintzer Ray S $108,152
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Roosevelt USDF Corbett Kathleen R $105,708
Roosevelt USDF Wallace Denise A $105,382
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Roosevelt USDF Finch John A $104,663
Roosevelt USDF Crummell Don E $104,395
Roosevelt USDF Robinson Diane $103,776
Roosevelt USDF Hennessy Michelle L $103,399
Roosevelt USDF Thomas Dexter S $102,479
Roosevelt USDF Hicks Yvette $102,096
Roosevelt USDF Carr Hattie J $102,088
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Roosevelt USDF Johnson Raymond E $101,981
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Roosevelt USDF Knauf Deanne S $101,954
Roosevelt USDF Ferris Maureen $101,437
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Roosevelt USDF Leach Lynne A $100,361
Roosevelt USDF Massenburg Karen T $100,036
Roosevelt USDF Bezalel Randi A $99,491
Roosevelt USDF Fuller-Taylor Paulette L $99,491
Roosevelt USDF Lipka Ramona I $99,034
Roosevelt USDF Henry Janet $98,669
Roosevelt USDF Ferrara Lisa A $97,753
Roosevelt USDF Parrish Todd $97,576
Roosevelt USDF Evans William M $97,352
Roosevelt USDF Jusme Joselaine $97,320
Roosevelt USDF Mascoll Janet P $97,192
Roosevelt USDF Hazelton Marnie R $96,871
Roosevelt USDF Piper Goslet A $96,814
Roosevelt USDF Sprufero Rose $96,264
Roosevelt USDF Conway Joy C $95,944
Roosevelt USDF Stein Ruth G $94,936
Roosevelt USDF Jarvis Alice M $94,344
Roosevelt USDF Zhang Jianping $93,833
Roosevelt USDF Henry Valerie L $93,499
Roosevelt USDF White Douglas S $92,821
Roosevelt USDF Baxter Edna M $92,498
Roosevelt USDF Kastel Victor D $91,642
Roosevelt USDF Sheehan Christine L $91,535
Roosevelt USDF Higgins Edith L $91,425
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Roosevelt USDF Messina Gretchen $90,970
Roosevelt USDF Moore Curtis J $90,796
Roosevelt USDF Clark Robyn L $90,327
Roosevelt USDF Baptiste-Moore Nicole L $90,299
Roosevelt USDF Solomon Dana D $90,242
Roosevelt USDF Malloy-Green Valori L $90,130
Roosevelt USDF Nelson Faye Y $90,130
Roosevelt USDF Viviani Mary M $90,130
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