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Unfortunately, in many places teachers ARE underpaid. However, LI is certainly on the opposite end of the spectrum AND I do not advocate making LI teachers underpaid. I am against underpaid teachers also!
It can and does hurt the children because of the way the deck is stacked when it comes to what is "votable" by the public and what is not. Since the teachers and administrators get THEIRS FIRST, the kids will always get the leftovers. Is that what we're paying taxes for? I thought it was for the education of the kids, NOT the continued and ever-improving comfortable lifestyle until death of the employees!
But the kids get the crumbs and scraps of the money and if anyone dare protest by voting against the budget, they are called "kid haters" by the beneficiaries of the stacked system. Real nice.
Yes, just not on LI.
Do you think salaries should be a voteable option for election time?
Do you think salaries should be a voteable option for election time?
No - the teachers shouldn't be held hostage to the whims of the taxpayers just as the public shouldn't be held hostage by the union. Neither side of the pendulum is productive.
No - the teachers shouldn't be held hostage to the whims of the taxpayers just as the public shouldn't be held hostage by the union. Neither side of the pendulum is productive.
What about a base salary + set increases per time with COLA adjustment every few years?
Do you think salaries should be a voteable option for election time?
I think the funding for the kids should come FIRST, before the entitlements and raises for the personnel, and that in a "bad economic climate," the personnel should not be demanding raises to go on "as usual."
I also think that the personnel and their union(s) need to JUSTIFY why they deserve more instead of simply demand it and expect the taxpayers to be forced to provide as much as they want.
I do not think the public should be setting the salary scale, but could vote on the percentage of the raise OR vote on the contribution percentage to the retirement accounts (in my perfect world they would not be pensions but 403b accounts).
COLA should be guarenteed. Then additional increases can be negotiated as economic times are favorable, with no additional increases when things are bad.
Where I work, COLA was given up decades ago, any negotiations for base pay increases have been fights just to keep up with inflation.
COLA should be guarenteed. Then additional increases can be negotiated as economic times are favorable, with no additional increases when things are bad.
Where I work, COLA was given up decades ago, any negotiations for base pay increases have been fights just to keep up with inflation.
I have never worked anywhere that gave COLA raises.
Either you earned a decent raise on merit (provided the company was giving raises that year) or you didn't.
COLA should be guarenteed. Then additional increases can be negotiated as economic times are favorable, with no additional increases when things are bad.
Where I work, COLA was given up decades ago, any negotiations for base pay increases have been fights just to keep up with inflation.
The only place COLA is guaranteed is in government - and that's why we are here. No guarantees.
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The only place COLA is guaranteed is in government - and that's why we are here. No guarantees.
Have to disagree with this one.
Everyplace I've worked, since the 60's, COLA was part of the formula for raises, and none of those companies were Public employers.
In one (Large Fortune 100 company) there was an annual COLA adjustment, plus a Merit adjustment. Then there was the very small Co in a southern state that used COLA as a Factor in determining the annual raises.
And a large LI company had an annual COLA adjustment as a "floor" for a merit increase - with the policy that if a person's performance was so poor that they were getting Only the COLA adjustment, they'd probably be looking for a new job elsewhere very soon.
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