Why Do School Boards Give Teachers These Outrageous Contracts? (Islip: for rent, car insurance)

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by JDMBA

The way school works, yeah, it goes from the beginning of September until the end of June and July and August are downtime. You get paid assuming you will budget for the summer. If you want to make more money at school, you can teach summer school, which is not included in the regular school year in the contract so you get more for it (there really isn't that much money in teaching summer school and a lot of people just want the time off).

There are many non teachers that would be quite willing to take a part time job at $40 an hour, a few hours in the morning then off to the beach and they still have the month of August. If they are that underpaid you would think they would be glad for these jobs but there is no competition. They have 2 months off over the summer not to mention all the days over the school year and they need time off? just doesn't add up.

[crv1010]

Originally Posted by Fastrudy

The average school teacher on long island makes $85 k a year

false

Actually just the benefits package (medical, dental, prescription, life Ins, eyeglass coverage etc etc) & pension the average teacher gouges taxpayers for about an additional 30K per year.For working less than 37 weeks per year! Outrageous and unsustainable!

[JDMBA]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

There are many non teachers that would be quite willing to take a part time job at $40 an hour, a few hours in the morning then off to the beach and they still have the month of August. If they are that underpaid you would think they would be glad for these jobs but there is no competition. They have 2 months off over the summer not to mention all the days over the school year and they need time off? just doesn't add up.

The summer school jobs aren't limited to teachers in the district. If other people want those jobs, go get a teaching degree and apply for the $40/hr job where you can go to the beach!! For that matter, go get a teaching degree, try to get into one of the districts (which is not an easy matter), try surviving (it's not as easy as you think), and then you too can make 85k/yr after you have been teaching for 10 years and have a masters degree plus 90 graduate credits above that which is what it will take to make that much money per year.

[JDMBA]

Originally Posted by crv1010

Actually just the benefits package (medical, dental, prescription, life Ins, eyeglass coverage etc etc) & pension the average teacher gouges taxpayers for about an additional 30K per year.For working less than 37 weeks per year! Outrageous and unsustainable!

You make it like some teacher is standing over you with a pitch fork

[7CatMom]

Originally Posted by I_Love_LI_but

Why were you dissing the person you answered with this misleading post claiming they only "get paid for 10 months" ... and then you get mad at me when, like someone else pointed out, you and I actually are saying the same thing.

He can "keep his dime?" Gee, thanks.

Obviously, what I read and what he or you meant, didn't come across the same to me as it did to you.

CRV's thinking is that teachers are paid too much and look at them, they go and have two more months off "on the taxpayer's dime". My point was that their contractual job is only for the Sept to June time period, so they aren't literally taking any time off for the summer on anyone's dime.

anyway...

[JDMBA]

Originally Posted by 7CatMom

Obviously, what I read and what he or you meant, didn't come across the same to me as it did to you.

CRV's thinking is that teachers are paid too much and look at them, they go and have two more months off "on the taxpayer's dime". My point was that their contractual job is only for the Sept to June time period, so they aren't literally taking any time off for the summer on anyone's dime.

anyway...

I think you're wasting your breath as much as I am wasting mine. This thread is for people to complain about teacher salaries and to berate teachers.

[7CatMom]

Yes, it happens a lot! But I figure, if I can put out some truthful information to those who really don't know what the truth is, then I've done some good for the day!

[Edification101]

Originally Posted by FrmlyBklyn

Sure we are, the teachers are paid a "bloated" rate for the six months they do "actual work". The remaining four months are holidays, snow days, prep time and weekends, plus official nationally recognized holidays.
Great deal 180 days worked, 180 days downtime to do what ever you feel like.

If teachers only work 6 months, by your math, then the average american works about 8 months a year. So what do you do with your paid 4 months off?

Just wondering?

[Edification101]

Originally Posted by BrooklynScott

I left Long Island, mostly because my school taxes went up to 16k. The average school teacher on long island makes $85 k a year PLUS outrageous pension and health benefits...and all for a NINE months of work (less numerous holidays, a week off for xmas, february break and easter). They dont need to save a penny for retirement because their pensions are so generous (Private workers have to save for their own retirements PLUS pay for the teachers pensions). My neighbor is a teacher and she drives a mercedes, so no, not a 50k car; a $60 k car. I think the only people left on long island WILL be teachers. You get what you deserve. Long Island is turning into Greece. Good luck to you all.

Fact check
Nassau County - Average Teacher salary: 75,284 with an average of 12 years working
Suffolk Sounty - Average salary: 66,087 with an average of 10 years working.
Just some information.
(these numbers do not include nonpublic school teacher salaries)

[jasminescent]

Originally Posted by Edification101

Fact check
Nassau County - Average Teacher salary: 75,284 with an average of 12 years working
Suffolk Sounty - Average salary: 66,087 with an average of 10 years working.
Just some information.
(these numbers do not include nonpublic school teacher salaries)

Facts are all dependent on which website you look at, and who and how they calculate those figures.

Here according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average salary of combined Nassau-Suffolk teachers is $83,240, and notice that Nassau-Suffolk salaries are always number 1 compared to all other areas in the nation, including those with higher COL. And, by a substantial amount too.

Top Cities for Teacher Salaries | Employment Spot

Here's another one from 2005 that separates the different school districts. Now 5 years later and quite a few years of raises, I don't doubt the average 85k.

Long Island Schools - Test scores, school programs - Newsday.com