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Old 05-27-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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Senator Flanagan Introduces Legislation To Freeze Public Sector Wages

Senator Flanagan Introduces Legislation To Freeze Public Sector Wages | New York State Senate
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:04 PM
 
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Good luck with that.
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:11 PM
 
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Good luck with that.
Actually this does have a chance of getting through. It's better than furloughs IMHO
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Old 05-27-2010, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Patchogue
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Actually this does have a chance of getting through. It's better than furloughs IMHO
So is forced labor. Doesnt make it right or legal. It will be challenged in court. You should not be able to legislate yourself out of a contractual agreement. The rule of law MUST be upheld as we are a nation based on and of laws.
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Old 05-27-2010, 07:35 PM
 
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How about every contract that expires gets replaced with a less expensive contract? I know, simple is hard for politicians. No matter what, you need to have a long term viable plan for future problems to not arise.
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Old 05-27-2010, 07:36 PM
 
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In a few (or even many) years when the economy turns around, the public sector will get bonuses, right?
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Old 05-27-2010, 07:53 PM
 
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So is forced labor. Doesnt make it right or legal. It will be challenged in court. You should not be able to legislate yourself out of a contractual agreement. The rule of law MUST be upheld as we are a nation based on and of laws.
The rule of law...stupid expession overused today...does not stop the state or any employer from doing lay-offs. Many private sector employees have seen their salaries frozen..why can't public employees do the same. Oh wait...they will just raise the taxes on the citizen who had their salary frozen to pay for public sector raises....makes perfect sense to me.

1 out of 3 employees in Greece is a public servant..look what is happening to them.
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:07 PM
 
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In a few (or even many) years when the economy turns around, the public sector will get bonuses, right?
god i wish... i'm public sector - non-union...

in good times we get a cola of 3% at the most... no merits, no bonuses and even have to pay to go to our christmas party...

i haven't had any increase since 2008 and probably not till 2011... but when times are booming and the private sector employees are pulling down 25k bonuses, i'll be back (maybe) to 3% colas


BUT

i have my state pension...

which is a decision i made, forgo big bucks up front for a more secure job (although not that much now) and a pension...

so that's why it pisses me the fvck off when people complain about state pensions... you begrudge me my pension? i begrudge your annual bonuses which are probably more than my salary...
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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so that's why it pisses me the fvck off when people complain about state pensions... you begrudge me my pension? i begrudge your annual bonuses which are probably more than my salary...
great post!
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:08 PM
 
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so that's why it pisses me the fvck off when people complain about state pensions... you begrudge me my pension? i begrudge your annual bonuses which are probably more than my salary...

That may be true for a certain sector (primarily wall street investment banks) but most private sector employees are probably grateful to get a weeks pay as bonus.
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