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Old 06-16-2010, 09:26 PM
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Originally Posted by californio sur View Post

Conejo Valley is in Ventura County as well so what happens to Thousand Oaks and surrounding areas is an issue for that county.
The Conejo Valley has this thing (can't think of the right verb) called SOAR, Save our Open Space and Agricultural Resources:
"S.O.A.R. is a local nonprofit organization dedicated to making Ventura County a better place to live by limiting urban sprawl, protecting open space and agricultural lands, and promoting livable and sustainable communities in Ventura County.

Once cities sprawl together each city loses the unique character vital to a real sense of community.

SOAR guards against runaway, ill-planned growth before the problems associated with urban sprawl get out of hand.
SOAR ensures well-planned cities that work focusing development
within existing urban areas.
SOAR protects farming and our greenbelts

The first SOAR Initiative was approved by the voters in the City of Ventura in 1995. Since the 1995, SOAR initiatives have passed in all major cities in Ventura County, and also on a countywide basis throughout Ventura County. No other county in the United States has more effective protections against urban sprawl. None!"
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Old 06-16-2010, 10:43 PM
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Part of what makes CA magical is: creative destruction: new industries and cos. continually move jobs where most efficient (whether in CA suburbia or TX suburbia or Chindia); and skilled workers and entrepreneurs move wherever best economic opportunities exist (and where they'd like to live and/or raise kids)

Today, TO corridor depends upon Amgen and a lot of widget factory entrepreneurs; fairly crappy public schools; hot and smoggy; distant from any decent pvt schools and any decent dining...but housing costs (and public schools) aren't much different than in many "affluent" suburban corridors around SF's EastBay or Chicago or Dallas or Houston or NYC or any other major city or even RustBelt suburbs like BloomfieldHills or Ladue or MorelandHills

The few well-educated professionals who work at Amgen (or in any other inland LA Valleys) prefer to reside on Westside for far better weather, air quality and to be amongst other educated professionals whose kids likely attend same pvt schools anyway

Similarly, many well-educated professionals, who can afford to live anywhere, resist any career opps in NewportBch corridor, as lack of many educated professionals (aside from a handful of guys from Pimco, Broadcom and a couple smaller tech cos.) and face predictably weak pvt schools
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:16 AM
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Originally Posted by hsw View Post

TO corridor depends upon Amgen and a lot of widget factory entrepreneurs; fairly crappy public schools;
Thousand Oaks (and the Conejo Valley) have "fairly crappy public schools"?

Wrong again.

Most schools in the Conejo Valley are 9/10 or 10/10 on both School Performance Maps and Great Schools:

California School Performance Maps - Conejo Valley

GreatSchools Map of the Conejo Valley
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:51 PM
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SCV is a large area consisting of 220k residents. Of that number, 170k live in the City of Santa Clarita.

There are a significant number of employers in Santa Clarita, but not enough to sustain the valley by itself. Santa Clarita has successfully attracted headquarters for Princess Cruises, Advanced Bionics, Specialty Labs, Aerospace Dynamics, US Healthworks and now a forthcoming mega studio complex for Disney. Still, the major employers are the usual suspects: school districts, local colleges CoC/CalArts, Six Flags. I would argue this is due to the fact that there is no research institution in Santa Clarita.

Santa Clarita takes its lumps from LA proper as a suburban outpost, but it is by and large the most viable option for families seeking top tier education in all grades without breaking the bank. Fact is, you have to really try to find a bad school by any measure in any grade in SCV. People move there for the schools and commute out for jobs. But it has the most robust mass transit of any suburban locale in southern California. With three metrolink stations and commuter buses to major employment hubs, there is at least a self-realization about SCV and the fact that most commute out for work. Newhall Pass (5 & 14 freeways) is a terrible bottleneck that is slow most evenings (although it moves faster than the 101 on balance) but can grind to a halt during fires (http://scvtalk.com/2010/07/23/5n-closed/ - broken link) or overturned big rigs (http://scvtalk.com/2010/07/20/there-has-got-to-be-a-better-way/ - broken link). That happens a few times per year.

I agree with the OP that long term, these suburb/exurb communities are not ideal. However, as long as communities closer to the core ignore the value of public education (and the human race propagates), communities like CV and SCV will persist for their superior value prop (education, safety) that comes with a cost (commute time). Until then, expect more of the same: people moving to Santa Clarita and Conejo Valley in search of a family town.
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