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Old 07-19-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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There is a reason for why people stereotype certain cities
Sure, because they don't do their homework by actually investigating the place before furthering old lazy conclusions made by dopey, casual observers. To say the citizens of L.A. are fake and materialistic is to belittle the effort the majority make towards simply getting by in an expensive place by working their asses off to afford it.

"Keeping Up with the Kardashians" doesn't represent what L.A. is all about. Turn off the damned TV.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: California
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This reminds me of that old "the Bay Area is Soft" thread from awhile back. I laughed when I read that title and I am laughing at this one. If all you are running into are Hipsters and Yuppies, then you really haven't experienced Los Angeles.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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Sure, because they don't do their homework by actually investigating the place before furthering old lazy conclusions made by dopey, casual observers. To say the citizens of L.A. are fake and materialistic is to belittle the effort the majority make towards simply getting by in an expensive place by working their asses off to afford it.

"Keeping Up with the Kardashians" doesn't represent what L.A. is all about. Turn off the damned TV.
There is a reason stereotypes exist, sure LA offers a lot more than materialism and superficiality, but if you were to take all that away, it wouldn't be what it is today. LA is the hub for shallowness/greed/materialism/shallowness and is dominated by wealth and prestige, everything else about LA isn't what drives it to be what it is today.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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There is a reason stereotypes exist
Yes - ignorance.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: LBC
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There is a reason stereotypes exist, sure LA offers a lot more than materialism and superficiality, but if you were to take all that away, it wouldn't be what it is today. LA is the hub for shallowness/greed/materialism/shallowness and is dominated by wealth and prestige, everything else about LA isn't what drives it to be what it is today.
Yep. It's ignorance.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:44 PM
 
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There is a reason stereotypes exist, sure LA offers a lot more than materialism and superficiality, but if you were to take all that away, it wouldn't be what it is today. LA is the hub for shallowness/greed/materialism/shallowness and is dominated by wealth and prestige, everything else about LA isn't what drives it to be what it is today.
?? So, how is that different from New York, DC, or Chicago?
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:47 PM
 
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You must absolutely freakin' hate NYC and Boston, then.
I already repped you, but so true about Miami, New York, etc.

Some people just don't feel at home on the west coast.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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No I don't actually, it's all about how a city presents itself. There is a reason for why people stereotype certain cities. Because stereotypes are true to a certain extent or else they would never be stereotyped to began with. Certain cities attract certain types of people. NYC and Boston aren't dominated by superficiality as MIAMI and Los Angeles are. By dominated I mean, is that what they are particularly "known" for? The shallow, materialistic mindset where money, prestige , and your outside appearance is FAR MORE valuable than anything you have within? Los Angeles is the epidemy of materialism and superficialism and that is why many people classify it as "fake", not being real or authentic is what I also consider fake, when you smile in there faces but really deep down you do not care that is being fake. In Los Angeles it's all about image/materialism/money/phoniness rather than just being who we really are and accepting the things of what we have. Being fake is when the outside you and impressing others is far more important and gaining approval from others, than the inside you and just being yourself and accepting things as they are. Being all about the "outside" really only shows me you are insecure with yourself and empty on the inside so you try and make up for it by materialism and being all about your appearance. There is nothing wrong with having nice things and looking good, but you cannot be only about that, that's what shallow insecure people do, and unfortunatly LA is dominated by these types so that is why many people consider it "fake"
I don't agree. I find LA one of the easiest places to be myself. I absolutely love it here, and feel totally comfortable in my own skin. But then again, I don't work in the entertainment industry. I haven't really spent much time at all in east coast cities, but I grew up outside Chicago, and the things I can't stand about the city are worse on the east coast. I have no interest in putting up a fake "tough" facade.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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Boston is very prestige based. If you aren't a jockish WASP from one of the private schools in the area, rocking the Sperrys on your feet, and the blue Oxford long sleeve, then you are not part of the elite.

Boston is a super traditional town that's heavily class based and racially segregated. I loved my time there but it wasn't exactly peaches either. People were extremely cliquish, icy and the women only wanted to date a meat head or a preppy jock.

New York City, the people think they're so "real". They all act "NYC". They talk loud for everyone to hear and sometimes I think that ridiculous accent some of the natives have is a total act. I looked at them and tended to think, "are they putting on an act for everyone"? No one can really talk like that.

It's also a town with rude as hell people who love being rude for the sake of it, not because they actually don't have time for you. I remember asking one guy for directions and he just brushed me off and walked right past me knowing I was there. I got ticked off and said, "what an a-hole, you rude s.o.b". He turned right around and wanted to get in my face, but a cop passed by. I told him, "yeah ya heard that one, huh, you think you're so New York".

The situation was the same as in Boston; racially segregated, heavily class based, and dominated by WASPs. If you weren't rocking what they were wearing on Gossip Girl then you were hanging out in Williamsburg with the worst of the worst hipsters and yipsters on the planet.

Wall St. douche bags galore.

LA on the other hand only has a small, small section of the city that is remotely like the larger sections of NYC and Boston.

LA's Westside is kind of like that, but I have still met nice, non-judgmental people in these areas. They're living in superficial hedonism but it's more of a live and let live hedonism, where they leave you alone if you're not into their style. Not so in NYC and Boston, where they will make it apparent to you that you're not one of them.

Los Angeles is probably the only major city I know of where the people give off this impression that they're shallow but in reality could care less what you're wearing, what you're doing, where you working, whatever. This is the only city where I've ever felt I could be myself. That lets anyone be themselves

In Boston, they want to know "where are you working", "where did you graduate from", "where did you go to boarding school", "who are your parents". "where do you see yourself in ten years", etc.

This thread is ridiculous. LA is not fake, in fact it's been wrongly characterized as a fake city because of the minuscule subsection of West LA and even then the stereotype is still unmerited.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:44 PM
 
Location: California
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LA is the hub for shallowness/greed/materialism/shallowness and is dominated by wealth and prestige, everything else about LA isn't what drives it to be what it is today.
I don't know. LA has a dark under belly that characterizes it just as much as materialism and wealth. There are some in the country who still think LA is the gang capital of America. While that is no longer the case it is ironic that a place many call "fake" and all about materialism has spawn an equally dark reputation. The thing is people choose which of LA's reps they want to play up depending on their agenda.

What truly characterizes Los Angeles is its stark extremes. It's both "plastic" and hard core all at the same time.
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