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Old 07-19-2012, 11:01 PM
 
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Los Angeles is a noir as hell city. More so than NYC which is Disneyland by comparison.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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I don't know. LA has a dark under belly that characterizes it just as much as materialism and wealth. There are some in the country who still think LA is the gang capital of America. While that is no longer the case it is ironic that a place many call "fake" and all about materialism has spawn an equally dark reputation. The thing is people choose which of LA's reps they want to play up depending on their agenda.

What truly characterizes Los Angeles is its stark extremes. It's both "plastic" and hard core all at the same time.
But this is the innate hypocrisy that you see in so many steretypes... usually, the dominant stereotypes are in direct conflict with one another. Think about it:

Los Angeles: plasticky, fake, glitzy, rich / hood, violent, gritty, ghetto
New York: elite, stodgy, old-world, rich / immigrant, bohemian, progressive, gritty
San Francisco: rich, white, too exclusive / broke, minorities, too inclusive

Etc, etc, etc...
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:21 AM
 
Location: LA
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LA is real; you will see it on Google map!
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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LA represents= Glitz / Glamour/ Materialism / Superficiality / Shallowness / Greed / Hollywood / Not being authentic = Fake

I'm talking West LA, why? Because that is the GREATER region of Los Angeles, and cities are often identified by there GREATER REGIONS.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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LA represents= Glitz / Glamour/ Materialism / Superficiality / Shallowness / Greed / Hollywood / Not being authentic = Fake

I'm talking West LA, why? Because that is the GREATER region of Los Angeles, and cities are often identified by there GREATER REGIONS.
GREATER, meaning what? Surely not population.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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GREATER, meaning what? Surely not population.
Or land mass...

Someone's just got an axe to grind on the stereotype wheel is all
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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LA represents= Glitz / Glamour/ Materialism / Superficiality / Shallowness / Greed / Hollywood / Not being authentic = Fake

I'm talking West LA, why? Because that is the GREATER region of Los Angeles, and cities are often identified by there GREATER REGIONS.
I guess I just don't understand something. So you think a cities image or stereotype is its reality relative to other places? You say that because these are peoples' perceptions of LA, so that makes it true. I guess I follow you, but shouldn't actual statistics based on indicators of all these attributes matter more??

I mean what Barcelonafans analysis? Have you spent time in Boston or New York? Do you agree with this conclusions about those places and choose to put up with those people in those cities?

I'm not trying to get a rise, just trying to make sense of your understanding.
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Old 07-20-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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All that glitters is not gold. I didn't find the commercial areas of rich West LA to be as glamourous or as ritzy exclusive as I thought it was going to be. Heck, the homes in the residential areas are bigger and more extravagant in River Oaks Houston.

LA is a city that's secure in itself.
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Old 07-20-2012, 06:47 PM
 
Location: In the hot spot!
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If I may chime in here, I'd have to say that coming from the East I heard a lot of stories of how people in LA were fake, plastic, etc. Of course, we in the East thought we were, in some small way, superior to other parts of the country after all, we had culture, much of the nation's early history and most of the nation's big cities! LA, in our minds, was a wannabe city out West.

That was my prevailing thought...until I visited for myself. What I encountered was almost the extreme opposite of what I'd been told. Now, I did see some of the stereotypical stuff, but not on the scale I thought. I found people to be warm, "real", easy to converse with and laid back. Not at all what I expected. LA, unfortunately, is blessed and cursed by the images presented in the movies and television. Those shows don't fully capture the "true essence" of this great American city. Is it a city without its issues, no! However, I think there are many more positive aspects of the city that ought to be brought up as opposed to the negatives.
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Mt Washington: NELA
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Who is doing the representing: News organization, movies, Tom Waits, Paris Hilton, some jackass? Regardless, representations are ALWAYS trumped by reality so who cares? Regardless, we've heard it all articulated with a helluva lot more clarity long before your stale rant.

'Greater Regions' - sounds like a bad Indie pic, or an equally awful porno.

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LA represents= Glitz / Glamour/ Materialism / Superficiality / Shallowness / Greed / Hollywood / Not being authentic = Fake

I'm talking West LA, why? Because that is the GREATER region of Los Angeles, and cities are often identified by there GREATER REGIONS.
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