Is L.A. getting an NFL team? (Los Angeles, San Diego: 2011, lease)

[skatealoneskatetogether]

in all honesty LA doesnt need a football team. stastically speaking more than half the city would rather watch futbol instead of football.

[hgclyde]

The NFL need to be serious if they want a team here they could have it done years ago. I don't trust them and most people don't believe them anyway. The NFL keeps promising to bring a team here but greed has kept them away and Fans have been disillusioned with the commissioner. When it comes to football Southern Californians are like Missourians "Show me!"

[StriderMatic]

Originally Posted by SandyCo

I think the reason L.A. doesn't have a football team now is because there's no stadium to support one. No one is willing to propose using public funding to build one, which is the way it should be. With such a huge homeless problem, traffic issues, gangs turf wars, etc., not one dime of public money should be used to lure the NFL back here! L.A. has existed for many years now without a pro football team; it can continue to do so just fine.

I read that the city is renovating the LA Coliseum to hold like 100,000 people (and to have a roof) so they can try to get another team.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by StriderMatic

I read that the city is renovating the LA Coliseum to hold like 100,000 people (and to have a roof) so they can try to get another team.

I wonder why they would add a roof. In California? It's hardly ever too hot and it doesn't rain that often. The cost would be insane.

It used to hold something like 100,000 before they replaced the benches with theater seats. The Rams and the Raiders averaged something like 50,000 fans per game too. Can't see the need to expand to 100K.

The Coliseum has been criticized in the past for not being geometrically suitable for viewing football. It was designed as a track and field stadium for the 1932 Olympics. The seats stretch too far away from the field.

[ibarrio]

The largest crowd I remember for a Raiders game was against the Cowboys. Maybe 90,000. At least half were Cowboy fans.

Maybe the Cowboys can move to L.A....

[tomwhite56]

...is, can L.A. KEEP an NFL team?

[Candid Canuck]

you'll get a team in LA when Toronto gets an NFL team

[AVMan]

LA doesn't need the NFL. At all. And certainly not at taxpayer expense (which is something the NFL wants). Most people like getting the best games on TV every week anyway.

The "bad LA sports fan" myth is just that -- a myth. Look at the freaking Dodgers. They've had 3 million+ fans every year for as long as I can remember, even though for the past couple of decades they've been completely mediocre.

The Raiders and Rams put crappy products on the field, and people stopped going. That's not "fair-weather", that's being discerning about where to spend your entertainment $$$$. Only morons spend their money year after year on a crappy product.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by AVMan

The "bad LA sports fan" myth is just that -- a myth. Look at the freaking Dodgers. They've had 3 million+ fans every year for as long as I can remember, even though for the past couple of decades they've been completely mediocre.

The Raiders and Rams put crappy products on the field, and people stopped going. That's not "fair-weather", that's being discerning about where to spend your entertainment $$$$. Only morons spend their money year after year on a crappy product.

Not sure I understand. Isn't that (not supporting when the team loses) exactly what a fair weather fan is?

Also, aren't these two paragraphs contradicting?

Dodgers, Mediocre product, Draw Lots of fans

Raiders/Rams, Crappy (mediocre) product, Not a lot of fans

Trivia:
The Chargers played their first year in LA as the Los Angeles Chargers.
The Raiders original colors were black and gold (they looked like Army football uniforms with black helmets). Al Davis changed to Silver and Black and added the helmet logo before their third year year.

[AVMan]

Originally Posted by Charles

Not sure I understand. Isn't that (not supporting when the team loses) exactly what a fair weather fan is?

Also, aren't these two paragraphs contradicting?

Dodgers, Mediocre product, Draw Lots of fans

Raiders/Rams, Crappy (mediocre) product, Not a lot of fans

Trivia:
The Chargers played their first year in LA as the Los Angeles Chargers.
The Raiders original colors were black and gold (they looked like Army football uniforms with black helmets). Al Davis changed to Silver and Black and added the helmet logo before their third year year.

Dodgers have been OK (not great, but OK, and certainly not crappy). Raiders and Rams were for the most part terrible prior to them moving. They weren't even mediocre.

And call it fair weather, call it discerning, whatever floats your boat. But LA fans aren't any more "fair weather" than other big cities (hint: take a look at Yankees attendance in the years prior to 1996).