Los Angeles (Sacramento, Santa Monica, San Clemente: sales, real estate market, rental)

[OCCASparky]

White persons, not Hispanic, percent, 2004 29.9%

Here--a linky-poo for you...

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06037.html

[dusesean1986]

Originally Posted by OCCASparky

And of course, Wikipedia is NEVER wrong...[/sarc]

no it could be wrong, but a 10 million people mistake is pretty difficult to miss.

[newportbeachsmostwanted]

Caucasion population is down from 46% to 28%. I think that says a lot.

[dusesean1986]

Pardon me I was incorrect because of an old chart I was recalling referring to demographics. But, there are still 3.3 million white people in Los Angeles County out of 10.2 million. With regards to my earlier estimates of 4.5 to 5 million.

[dusesean1986]

Originally Posted by newportbeachsmostwanted

Caucasion population is down from 46% to 28%. I think that says a lot.

It's probably more like 99% to 28% over the years.

[socal06]

Originally Posted by dusesean1986

It's probably more like 99% to 28% over the years.

actually..
(I'm speaking of America as a whole now, not just LA)
According to Time magazine's America By the Numbers, they estimate that by the year 2020, only 50% of Americans will be classified as "Caucasian"
currently thats 74%. Reason: Hispanics are having way more kids and outnumbering the amount whites do.

[socal06]

Originally Posted by OCCASparky

And of course, Wikipedia is NEVER wrong...[/sarc]

Adding to Sparky's statement..
Wikipedia can be edited by anyone.I could go in right now and change that 10,253,752 whatever to 7 million. Don't count on Wiki.

[dusesean1986]

Originally Posted by socal06

actually..
(I'm speaking of America as a whole now, not just LA)
According to Time magazine's America By the Numbers, they estimate that by the year 2020, only 50% of Americans will be classified as "Caucasian"
currently thats 74%. Reason: Hispanics are having way more kids and outnumbering the amount whites do.

I didn't see your last quote on this thread. I was referring to Newport Beach Most Wanted. And by 2020, there will hopefully not be a steady increase of racism.

[DontH8Me]

Originally Posted by dusesean1986

I didn't see your last quote on this thread. I was referring to Newport Beach Most Wanted. And by 2020, there will hopefully not be a steady increase of racism.

Hey dusesean, I live right next door to you in MB, just east of the 405. If you want to keep in touch PM me - I have to say you appear to be the only poster I have seen who has something positive to say about LA, and it appears to me like the majority of people posting here are bitter that they are no longer the majority. I may be banned for what I'm about to write but it will all be worth it since I don't see too much objectivity here.

How can you people call yourselves Americans by the way? The great American melting pot? Land of the free and the home of the brave? Did I miss the disclaimer "only as long as whites are in the majority"? People are posting data about racial percentages past present and projected future. Why is this even relevant today?

I guess I'll play the devil's advocate again and come to the defense of those "dirty illegals". Someone on this thread posted something about how 30 to 40 of 'them' stand around at Home Depot waiting for a chance to work - when was the last time some real 'Amehrrican' career welfare collector tried to do something like that? Someone else claimed that 'they' are living 12 people to a studio apartment or something like that - well, when was the last time some "Amehrrican" was willing to sacrifice their personal comfort for the greater good of their family? Why does this bother people so?

I am not saying that illegal immigration is right - far from it. I don't support anyone breaking the law. But they are here now, and they are willing to do things that the "middle class" would not fathom to lower themselves to performing. The elected lawmakers need to earn their keep and adapt to the situation with new legislation.

And I don't understand why the "middle class" feels they are entitled to own a house. Who ever said that a teacher's salary is going to afford the middle class lifestyle in one of the most desireable geographic areas in all of the US? And not singling out teachers specifically, why does anyone feel they are entitled to homeownership without earning and saving? If homeownership in LA is what you want, find out what it takes to earn that and then do it. Others seem to be able to figure it out and are doing it, right? If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Something I have noticed amongst my caucasian peers is the "demand/get" mentality and a false sense of entitlement. They see shows like the Bravo Housewives one and feel like they "missed out" on something - cheated even - because they aren't satisfied with what they already have. Not everyone gets to live in Coto de Caza, not everyone gets to be Paris Hilton, and that's just life by golly! Going to college and getting a BS or even an MBA doesn't mean you are granted direct access straight to the top of the corporate ladder and that you don't have to "pay your dues" along the way.

Everyone should consider "The Millionaire Next Door" mandatory reading. It illustrates why those among us who are wealthy got to be wealthy. Some interesting things most of LA doesn't want to consider - all of the wealthy polled OWNED their cars. No, they didn't lease (rent) them from a financial institution. Just one example of how people live above their means and then wonder why they are in a hole financially. The wealthy make sacrifices most people around here would consider draconian.

That's my $0.02. I think I'll recommend this site to my sister, it's one of the many that seems to reward bitter and negative posts with "recommendations". She likes negativity. I prefer to surround myself with positive energy that emanates from upbeat and optimistic people who believe in their own success and thereby realize it too.

[dusesean1986]

Originally Posted by DontH8Me

Hey dusesean, I live right next door to you in MB, just east of the 405. If you want to keep in touch PM me - I have to say you appear to be the only poster I have seen who has something positive to say about LA, and it appears to me like the majority of people posting here are bitter that they are no longer the majority. I may be banned for what I'm about to write but it will all be worth it since I don't see too much objectivity here.

How can you people call yourselves Americans by the way? The great American melting pot? Land of the free and the home of the brave? Did I miss the disclaimer "only as long as whites are in the majority"? People are posting data about racial percentages past present and projected future. Why is this even relevant today?

I guess I'll play the devil's advocate again and come to the defense of those "dirty illegals". Someone on this thread posted something about how 30 to 40 of 'them' stand around at Home Depot waiting for a chance to work - when was the last time some real 'Amehrrican' career welfare collector tried to do something like that? Someone else claimed that 'they' are living 12 people to a studio apartment or something like that - well, when was the last time some "Amehrrican" was willing to sacrifice their personal comfort for the greater good of their family? Why does this bother people so?

I am not saying that illegal immigration is right - far from it. I don't support anyone breaking the law. But they are here now, and they are willing to do things that the "middle class" would not fathom to lower themselves to performing. The elected lawmakers need to earn their keep and adapt to the situation with new legislation.

And I don't understand why the "middle class" feels they are entitled to own a house. Who ever said that a teacher's salary is going to afford the middle class lifestyle in one of the most desireable geographic areas in all of the US? And not singling out teachers specifically, why does anyone feel they are entitled to homeownership without earning and saving? If homeownership in LA is what you want, find out what it takes to earn that and then do it. Others seem to be able to figure it out and are doing it, right? If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Something I have noticed amongst my caucasian peers is the "demand/get" mentality and a false sense of entitlement. They see shows like the Bravo Housewives one and feel like they "missed out" on something - cheated even - because they aren't satisfied with what they already have. Not everyone gets to live in Coto de Caza, not everyone gets to be Paris Hilton, and that's just life by golly! Going to college and getting a BS or even an MBA doesn't mean you are granted direct access straight to the top of the corporate ladder and that you don't have to "pay your dues" along the way.

Everyone should consider "The Millionaire Next Door" mandatory reading. It illustrates why those among us who are wealthy got to be wealthy. Some interesting things most of LA doesn't want to consider - all of the wealthy polled OWNED their cars. No, they didn't lease (rent) them from a financial institution. Just one example of how people live above their means and then wonder why they are in a hole financially. The wealthy make sacrifices most people around here would consider draconian.

That's my $0.02. I think I'll recommend this site to my sister, it's one of the many that seems to reward bitter and negative posts with "recommendations". She likes negativity. I prefer to surround myself with positive energy that emanates from upbeat and optimistic people who believe in their own success and thereby realize it too.

Very well written...where East of the 405 is your dwelling...