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Unread 11-03-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Precisely! Pretty much maintained the status quo and, if possible, paved the way for things to get worse.
I know how much you worry about California but take solace in the fact that California is the largest most influential state in America with the largest economy. California will survive. By the way, how is the economy in Missouri these days?
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Unread 11-03-2010, 10:23 AM
 
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California is the largest most influential state in America
Alaska is the largest state in America. You're commenting on legislative policy and you're unaware that your state is not the largest?

Yes, California is the most influential. However, that has absolutely nothing to do with the way its government is ran. Rather, it is a reflection of certain industries that call California their home. A lot of Venture Capital takes places there, silicon valley, etc. Many new ideas come from CA, and that's a good thing. At what point would you admit that things need to change, drastically? Do you understand the magnitude of the problems CA is currently facing?
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Unread 11-03-2010, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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Brown is back !! Clown Arnold Schwarzenegger is out . No republican hell yeah !! Californians good job on saying no to legalizing marijuana
This is a victory??? Brown's gonna repeal prop. 13, then it will be like living in TX with horrendous property taxes .... AND state income tax to boot!
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Unread 11-03-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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This is a victory??? Brown's gonna repeal prop. 13, then it will be like living in TX with horrendous property taxes .... AND state income tax to boot!
What would it take to repeal it? I know Brown tried like hell to get it overturned last time he was governor and no doubt will try again this time. But wouldn't it take another proposition?
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Unread 11-03-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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I don't get why people are complaining about Brown winning. Meg wouldn't have done any better.
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Unread 11-03-2010, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Lake Worth
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We don't need another clown from Silicon Valley or Hollywood ! Brown will help us i have faith in him !
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Unread 11-03-2010, 10:59 AM
 
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We don't need another clown from Silicon Valley or Hollywood ! Brown will help us i have faith in him !
You sound like a 10 year old repeating what he heard at a democrat rally.
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Unread 11-03-2010, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Lake Worth
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You sound like a 10 year old repeating what he heard at a democrat rally.
well i am happy all the way from Florida ! Florida is control by republicans now
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Unread 11-03-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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First of all, someone please point me to the specifics where Arnold COULD have done something and failed to do so. I'm all ears. No vague posting either. Specifics. And it has to be a situation where the dem's in the legislature would not have insta blocked the idea.

Second, there are no excuses for the dems. This is the second go round....remember that the first resulted in their governor being recalled? Well in their infinite wisdom, the voters of california not only saw fit to elect democrats to the governors office, and majority to the assembly and house, but also to change the required vote to pass a budget from 2/3'rds to a simple majority and also to hand the gerrymandering reins over to the dems as well. So no excuses. Dems control all aspects of state government and are fully responsible for the next four years. Plenty of time to fix any problems, plenty of time to correct the direction of the state.

FWIW, the dems will do none of the following, but the following would correct most of the states problems in a four year period:

1.) Make California more business friendly. Remove restrictive legislation and fees and compliances to bring California into line with more business friendly states like Arizona and Texas.

2.) Reduce business and income tax on the middle class and wealthy. The poor don't pay income tax so thats always a huge red herring thrown up to make dems seem "fair". If you don't believe me, go look at California's tax tables. The only poor people that pay income tax are single working people, and its not much.

3.) Change treatment for drug addicts. Eliminate state prison as a sentencing option for drug possession crimes, even chronic ones.

4.) No pay raises for ANYONE employed by the state for the next 4 years.

5.) Make the assembly and legislature part time positions that meet for 3 months total a year. Reduce expenditures accordingly.

6.) Cap the amount of money a school district can spend on administrative costs.

Anyway, point being that the states problems CAN be fixed, but even holding all power, the dems will not do it.

Another BTW....those making $60K+ as single and ~$90K+ as a family, look forward to being considered "rich" for tax purposes.
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Unread 11-03-2010, 12:40 PM
 
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We don't need another clown from Silicon Valley or Hollywood ! Brown will help us i have faith in him !
You, sir or madam, have replied with no reasoning for any of your rah-rah cheerleading, and have proven to be merely a lemming of blind partisanship.
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