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Old 01-23-2011, 12:23 AM
 
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You shouldn't be so hard on kids that post here that trying to follow their dreams. Sure, it is good to caution a family moving to LA that times are tough, because, for a family, the stakes are very high. You need to provide for your family. But for a young single man or woman, there will always be some kind of work for somebody willing to do anything (In-N-Out), and young people can subsist on ramen.

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really mike?

i have been unemployed for two. years. two years. i can press pants. i was an exec chef. i managed offices and retail stores. i have great references. i will flip burgers. i will clean toilets. now, reread my first bolded sentence.

do not try and compare your experiences from ten years ago with what is happening here now. you can not compare los angeles to anything right now with any believability except for maybe detroit. after having looked for jobs for so long not only is it mightily depressing, but i am mightily sick of people like you whining on CD about 'these kids with dreams, he can work in in=and-out!" do you know what the term "no jobs" means? that doesn't mean "no jobs but the crappy ones". most of my career has been spent working in jobs that are beneath most white folk. and there are no jobs. reread that sentence. do you get that? that doesn't mean "jobs you like". "jobs to be proud of". that means JOBS. you must not be unemployed right now, with homelessness looming less than a month away as it is for me. i have been here 6 years. you need to take your own pair of rose colored glasses off, because you are not out in the crap with the others like myself. that kid is BETTER OFF AT HOME. wait a year. any one who tells you otherwise is sitting quite warm and comfy and with a full belly. don't believe a satisfied man.
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:42 AM
 
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can not compare los angeles to anything right now with any believability except for maybe detroit
Well hardly that. And there are jobs, it just depends on what you can do.
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:45 AM
 
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Well hardly that. And there are jobs, it just depends on what you can do.
please ceece, in your infinite wisdom, tell me what that is, because apparently despite never going more than a week without a job in my life, i am suddenly blind to all the opportunities that everyone else seems to see and i just keep missing. do YOU have a job? are you looking for one? do you have any real clue what it is like out there?
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:48 AM
 
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please ceece, in your infinite wisdom, tell me what that is, because apparently despite never going more than a week without a job in my life, i am suddenly blind to all the opportunities that everyone else seems to see and i just keep missing. do YOU have a job? are you looking for one? do you have any real clue what it is like out there?
My daughter and her bf got jobs within a month of moving there. They have degrees in graphics/animation and work at studios in Santa Monica. There are jobs, it just depends on what you can do.

I'm not downplaying the difficulty of the current job market. I myself don't live in LA but I also don't have a job. However, there are plenty of jobs advertised in my area, I'm just not qualified to do them.
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:54 AM
 
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My daughter and her bf got jobs within a month of moving there. They have degrees in graphics/animation and work at studios in Santa Monica. There are jobs, it just depends on what you can do.
so they are probably 21 or 22 with brand new degrees. i am 37, quite experienced in GD and have designed many a flier and cd cover and menu. firms just seem to like to hire the young ones. oh, this cheers me up immensely! THANKS!
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:07 AM
 
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really mike?

i have been unemployed for two. years. two years. i can press pants. i was an exec chef. i managed offices and retail stores. i have great references. i will flip burgers. i will clean toilets. now, reread my first bolded sentence.

do not try and compare your experiences from ten years ago with what is happening here now. you can not compare los angeles to anything right now with any believability except for maybe detroit. after having looked for jobs for so long not only is it mightily depressing, but i am mightily sick of people like you whining on CD about 'these kids with dreams, he can work in in=and-out!" do you know what the term "no jobs" means? that doesn't mean "no jobs but the crappy ones". most of my career has been spent working in jobs that are beneath most white folk. and there are no jobs. reread that sentence. do you get that? that doesn't mean "jobs you like". "jobs to be proud of". that means JOBS. you must not be unemployed right now, with homelessness looming less than a month away as it is for me. i have been here 6 years. you need to take your own pair of rose colored glasses off, because you are not out in the crap with the others like myself. that kid is BETTER OFF AT HOME. wait a year. any one who tells you otherwise is sitting quite warm and comfy and with a full belly. don't believe a satisfied man.

I feel your pain. My husband went from making great money in the carpenters union from 2005-2008 to nothing. He's applied all over, from Trader Joes to Wal-Mart. He's hoping to get back into the union soon but it's been very hard for us. You are so right- no jobs means NO jobs. Not even crappy ones. My husband was willing to take a $30/hour pay cut but still couldn't find a job. I hope you have luck finding a decent job soon.
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:17 AM
 
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so they are probably 21 or 22 with brand new degrees. i am 37, quite experienced in GD and have designed many a flier and cd cover and menu. firms just seem to like to hire the young ones. oh, this cheers me up immensely! THANKS!
Hey, don't shoot the messenger! Just because you (and I) aren't getting the jobs doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:56 AM
 
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Hey, don't shoot the messenger! Just because you (and I) aren't getting the jobs doesn't mean they don't exist.
yeah, your right. but it still sucks! don't mean to be a grouch. i just got me a plateful of woe this evening.

but hey, at least my house didn't burn down like that guy in the other thread. hell, that made me feel better. i got a fridge for him if he wants it! when in need help somebody. i forget that sometimes.
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