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Old 02-01-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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Since my last post in April 2010 - I've learned that 'Sober living' is also a front for serious addicted criminals who may be, burglars, rapists, child predators, etc., etc..AND NO FACILITATORS..In a neighborhood watch meeting, I've been told that some of these folks have been known to burglarize the neighborhood to supply their habit. They come and go, quickly.. The police are called at least 3 times a month, and arrests are frequent. So in others words these sober living homes are not supervised and drugs are present, a drug house pretty much..Sometimes I see them walk around the corner in the dark and light one up. This is what we all pay our taxes for? This is what I have to settle for when I have to pay a mortgage and taxes on my beautiful house in which the value is declining because each time the police are called it is recorded?
One month ago I was threatened because I asked one guy if he would return a shopping basket to the grocery store rather than leaving it in front of a neighbor’s house..Yeah I called the police and when they found out it was a sober living, they seemed passive. Oh, maybe the reason is that this program is under the disability law..It's not fair!!! Everybody should have another chance at life but not like this and at my or your expense?! So if a homeowner wants to make a buck, screw the neighborhood. There should be a law in place to require the (sober living) homeowner, not the tax payer to hire a facilitator who will insure that these people ARE rehabilitating and not just using the system to continue their drug abuse..So those of you who feel sorry for these folks, lets see how you talk when they come to your neighborhood. We need to do something to help them not hurt them and or the neighbors...I say we start with our Councilman and demand changes..

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Old 02-01-2011, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Wouldn't fire and pitchforks be more cost effective for the taxpayers? 'Twould be so much more of a thrill for the local angry mob, as well! Lay all those damned wanna-be-sober baddies right down in the street for all to see!
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:03 PM
 
Location: GLAMA
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I adopted my dog from someone at a church-sponsored sober living home in the high desert. The first thing I see when I drive up are two of the male residents out on the front stoop killing a case of beer.

A few days later when I came to pick the dog up for transport back to my house, one of the female residents came out of a back room buckassed naked and screaming obscenities.

To say I wasn't impressed would be an understatement.
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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A few days later when I came to pick the dog up for transport back to my house, one of the female residents came out of a back room buckassed naked and screaming obscenities.

To say I wasn't impressed would be an understatement.
Unimpressed!? Why, what great theater! And aren't we all well enamored of the fine 'reality shows' L.A. feeds the nation these days? Get a camera!
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I think the posters on this thread have been seeing bad sober living facilities - their will always be people who want to make a buck and those who are addicts who will use the system to give themselves a good name. I have been close to persons who were serious about being clean and I can assure you therir are facilities that are ok. I would even say that it is the individuals attitude that dictates the extent of recovery more then the facilities reputation. You have to want to be sober to become sober. Don't judge certain programs by their clients who never intended to be clean in the first place.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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Maybe you should move near Charlie Sheen, Paris Hilton, Christina Agulaira or Lindsey Lohan.....they don't live in sober houses but, have serious addictions, rob, sell and use drugs non controlled drinking habits and love to PARTAYYY... My point being, at least you have SOBER people living near you not rich people who get away with paying off judges and lawyers and continue to be a menace to society.

I think its IGNORNANT when people put down others who are trying to clean up their lives and start over in a sober home. I hope you , your family or loved ones never experience the ill fate of having a addiction. Karma is a byotch.

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Old 03-03-2011, 10:04 PM
 
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Harrier,
It is not wrong to want change and to improve a very bad situation. If you'll carefully read that I was attacking the broken program because we as tax payers are paying for it AND I have a family, children and I want them safe. Why is it so easy for people like you to judge others who want to right a wrong. This is about fairness; I do the best I can and I'm not rich but I do expect others to work like me to keep our neighborhoods safe and if that means installing a facililator to ensure these individuals ARE on their way to recovery, then so be it. I shouldn't have to pay for sloppy programs that need improvement and that put our neighborhoods at risk, nor should you...
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:08 PM
 
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30STM,
I'm very dissapointed being that you are a senior in this forum, because your remark was juvenille. You missed the whole point. Hmmph...

It is not wrong to want change and to improve a very bad situation. If you'll carefully read that I was attacking the broken program because we as tax payers are paying for it AND I have a family, children and I want them safe. Why is it so easy for people like you to judge others who want to right a wrong. This is about fairness; I do the best I can and I'm not rich but I do expect others to work like me to keep our neighborhoods safe and if that means installing a facililator to ensure these individuals ARE on their way to recovery, then so be it. I shouldn't have to pay for sloppy programs that need improvement and that put our neighborhoods at risk, nor should you...
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:11 PM
 
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I guess you'll never know until they set up in your neighborhood. Won't be long...
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Carmen - they ARE in my neighborhood - and there is no problem here - as I have said I have been friends with persons who have been in these soberliving programs and they are now recovered. If the houses near you are a problem - then perhaps you they do need a "facilitator" to monitor them - however so far what I read in your posts is a vitriol against ALL sober living houses. I am sorry you have only met with negative experiences. I only fear that your suggestions will lead to the good sober living houses being shut down and no oppurtunity for recovery like my friends benefited from.
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