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Old 02-10-2011, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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HAHAHA, everyone's found out about that eh. If it came down to Camden, NJ or San Francisco, CA, I would pick Camden, NJ in a heart beat. (Not being sarcastic either)
If I had the experience you had in SF..can't say I would love it either.
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Old 02-10-2011, 02:58 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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HAHAHA, everyone's found out about that eh. If it came down to Camden, NJ or San Francisco, CA, I would pick Camden, NJ in a heart beat. (Not being sarcastic either)
Why camden over san Francisco?
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:00 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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If I had the experience you had in SF..can't say I would love it either.
Haha yeah, they really need to fix some things up. It's a pretty city and all, and even though I hate its guts I give it the credit it deserves, nothing more or less.

But yes, the San Francisco living on this forum and Los Angeles hating has to stop, both of those things are a bit overdone. Actually the entire Sunbelt gets a lot of hate, don't see why either. I've lived in a few places before and some of the Sunbelt cities really do have a lot going for them that this site wont ever acknowledge. Which is a shame.

By the way, one of my all time top cities is Denver, along with Tucson, San Diego, & Seattle those are my absolute top cities of choice and the ones I like the best and think of as the best. But that's just me though. My follow up group after that is Washington DC, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, & New York (Mostly Brooklyn).
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Why camden over san Francisco?
Haha to put it without insulting a city or bashing it (I'm not like that), I just hate the place a lot more than I can ever even try to explain, I like the Bay Area, just not San Francisco. There was very little I liked about the place (San Francisco), each and every time I've gone there.

I think of Los Angeles as California's lead city, even though I have complex ways of viewing the places, Los Angeles in my opinion and experience has been a great city to visit and come back to.
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:09 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I still view LA as the big city of the west. Before I joined this site, to me, it was always NY & LA... they were the top 2
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Probably top 10 most famous and top 10 most diverse, but no, it is not #1.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:47 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I think in few other cities of the world are outlying suburbs and cities as famous as the city itself. Names like Hollywood, Beverley Hills, Bel Air, Long Beach, Anaheim and now Orange County are like household names. As well as all the streets and other landmarks. LA is of course extremely diverse physically, culturally.etc - much moreso than pretty much any world city I can think of, even the Old World ones and New York City.
LA metro area is most famous in a pop culture sense. But that's going to be short-lived and ultimately not so important compared to many other places in my opinion. Hollywood celebrities aren't filling pages of history books anytime soon.

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Old 02-10-2011, 06:15 AM
 
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LA metro area is most famous in a pop culture sense. But that's going to be short-lived and ultimately not so important compared to many other places in my opinion. Hollywood celebrities aren't filling pages of history books anytime soon.
Hollywoods been big for the lat 100+ years. Short-lived? How do you know? Pop-culture IS relevant to history whether you believe it or not.
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Old 02-10-2011, 06:32 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Hollywoods been big for the lat 100+ years. Short-lived? How do you know? Pop-culture IS relevant to history whether you believe it or not.
Name one Hollywood actor/actress (not politician) that is ever going to be mentioned in the same breath as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln or Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Old 02-10-2011, 06:38 AM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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Name one Hollywood actor/actress (not politician) that is ever going to be mentioned in the same breath as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln or Martin Luther King, Jr.
Well if you were just listing American politicians, then Ronald Reagan.
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Haha yeah, they really need to fix some things up. It's a pretty city and all, and even though I hate its guts I give it the credit it deserves, nothing more or less.

But yes, the San Francisco living on this forum and Los Angeles hating has to stop, both of those things are a bit overdone. Actually the entire Sunbelt gets a lot of hate, don't see why either. I've lived in a few places before and some of the Sunbelt cities really do have a lot going for them that this site wont ever acknowledge. Which is a shame.

By the way, one of my all time top cities is Denver, along with Tucson, San Diego, & Seattle those are my absolute top cities of choice and the ones I like the best and think of as the best. But that's just me though. My follow up group after that is Washington DC, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, & New York (Mostly Brooklyn).

Haha to put it without insulting a city or bashing it (I'm not like that), I just hate the place a lot more than I can ever even try to explain, I like the Bay Area, just not San Francisco. There was very little I liked about the place (San Francisco), each and every time I've gone there.

I think of Los Angeles as California's lead city, even though I have complex ways of viewing the places, Los Angeles in my opinion and experience has been a great city to visit and come back to.
The sunbelt cities are laid completely differently than traditional older cities. The downtown are smaller and less mixed use, harder to walk around and see things, you see less people compared to cars, so at first glance its seems less lively. Someone used to Northeastern or European cities will find it hard to get used to and think "there's nothing here".

It's harder to find everything in LA for a visitor so it loses a bit of respect, too. When I saw SF, I liked it rather quickly. LA, not so much. SF felt like a less overwhelming low-rise NYC that still had plenty to see and was in a scenic location. Wished more of the Bay Area was built like San Francisco.
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