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Old 04-10-2011, 02:09 AM
 
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Yeah, I know, I know...
We already have enough threads about this. But I noticed a similar post asking, "Is L.A. really that bad?"
And thought it might me comforting to Angelenos and fans of L.A. to know, when so many on this site seem
to delight in taking dumps on it, that while scoring very low, Los Angeles did not make to the nations's
top 25 Most Dangerous Cities....

According to a study of FBI crime statistics by CQ Press, St. Louis, Mo. was the 'most dangerous city in
the U.S.' in 2010, probably due to former St. Louis Cardinal Mark McGwire's uncontrollable steroid-murder rages.
Here's the top 25:
1. St. Louis, MO
2. Camden, NJ
3. Detroit, MI
4. Flint, MI
5. Oakland, CA
6. Richmond, CA
7. Cleveland, OH
8. Compton, CA
9. Gary, IN
10. Birmingham, AL
11. Baltimore, MD
12. Memphis, TN
13. New Orleans, LA
14. Jackson, MS
15. Little Rock, AR
16. Baton Rouge, LA
17. Buffalo, NY
18. New Haven, CT
19. Hartford, CT
20. Dayton, OH
21. Kansas City, MO
22. Washington, DC
23. Newark, NJ
24. Cincinnati, OH
25. Atlanta, GA
So again, Is L.A. really that bad when, New York City ended up at number 269; San Francisco at 130;
Los Angeles proper at 158; and Chicago wasn't ranked because its "rape numbers
were not available" ...Gasp!
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Originally Posted by Hegotsoul831 View Post
Yeah, I know, I know...
We already have enough threads about this. But I noticed a similar post asking, "Is L.A. really that bad?"
And thought it might me comforting to Angelenos and fans of L.A. to know, when so many on this site seem
to delight in taking dumps on it, that while scoring very low, Los Angeles did not make to the nations's
top 25 Most Dangerous Cities....

According to a study of FBI crime statistics by CQ Press, St. Louis, Mo. was the 'most dangerous city in
the U.S.' in 2010, probably due to former St. Louis Cardinal Mark McGwire's uncontrollable steroid-murder rages.
Here's the top 25:
1. St. Louis, MO
2. Camden, NJ
3. Detroit, MI
4. Flint, MI
5. Oakland, CA
6. Richmond, CA
7. Cleveland, OH
8. Compton, CA
9. Gary, IN
10. Birmingham, AL
11. Baltimore, MD
12. Memphis, TN
13. New Orleans, LA
14. Jackson, MS
15. Little Rock, AR
16. Baton Rouge, LA
17. Buffalo, NY
18. New Haven, CT
19. Hartford, CT
20. Dayton, OH
21. Kansas City, MO
22. Washington, DC
23. Newark, NJ
24. Cincinnati, OH
25. Atlanta, GA
So again, Is L.A. really that bad when, New York City ended up at number 269; San Francisco at 130;
Los Angeles proper at 158; and Chicago wasn't ranked because its "rape numbers
were not available" ...Gasp!
I'm surprised Detroit's not #1 although St. Louis and Camden are really dangerous. The others don't really surprise me except for Hartford which I don't know much about. Buffalo being on that list should disprove the notion that white non-Latino majority cities can't be high crime cities, which some people have.
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:42 AM
 
Location: Carlsbad
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So again, Is L.A. really that bad when, New York City ended up at number 269; San Francisco at 130;
Los Angeles proper at 158; and Chicago wasn't ranked because its "rape numbers
were not available" ...Gasp!
Uh...Compton was #8 on the list. I could have sworn Compton was apart of Los Angeles proper.
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Old 04-10-2011, 06:14 AM
 
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except for Hartford which I don't know much about.
I think it was mentioned in a couple of "Gilmore Girls" episodes, so yeah, to me that makes it shocking! ;-)
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Old 04-10-2011, 06:31 AM
 
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Compton is a separate municipality from the city of Los Angeles and has around 95K people, but it is within Los Angeles County.

Keep in mind that these stats only include hard crimes like homicide, sexual assault, battery, robbert, etc., not narcotics dealing, prostitution, gambling, gang membership, etc.

The perception of crime among residents is also important. I bet if they polled people from Pacoima, they would say that they feel unsafe and the crime rate is higher than it appears on paper because of drug dealing, prostitution, gangs..
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Old 04-10-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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I'm surprised Detroit's not #1 although St. Louis and Camden are really dangerous. The others don't really surprise me except for Hartford which I don't know much about.
i used to live in connecticut for a few years and would pass through hartford on a fairly regular basis. prior to living in CT, i had no idea that hartford was such a dump. there are many areas in that city that could easily pass for the worst parts of newark, camden, north philly, eastern brooklyn, south bronx, and so on. much of what i saw was total urban decay: bombed-out homes, decrepit commercial corridors filled with check cashing stores and liquor stores, "urban prairies", drug dealers out and about everywhere, rampant tagging, bars on the windows, and trash everywhere. just really scary and depressing.

supposedly, things have gotten somewhat better in hartford in recent years, with a fair amount of gentrification in a handful of neighborhoods. i should also add that there's a small neighborhood on the western fringes of the city, right on the border with the well-manicured and desirable suburb of west hartford, that has some beautiful old mansions on tree-lined streets. but that's probably the case in many rough cities around the nation.

ultimately, i think it speaks volumes that everyone i know who grew up in the greater hartford area hung out in the suburban town of west hartford - rather than the city of hartford - for their entertainment and nightlife needs during their youth, and didn't venture into the city proper unless absolutely necessary.

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Uh...Compton was #8 on the list. I could have sworn Compton was apart of Los Angeles proper.
uh...you thought wrong.

compton is not part of los angeles proper; it is its own independent city. so its crime statistics are completely separate from the city of LA. and given that LA county's violent crime rate is at its lowest point since the 1960s, rough areas like compton and watts are more the exception than the rule in the greater region.
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Old 04-10-2011, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Hills & Hollers of the Aux Arcs
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All high "minority" locations. Go figure!
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Old 04-10-2011, 08:45 AM
 
Location: all over NJ-currently in Totowa
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Some body that actually lives in Oakland-
--OR Richmond-
-can you give me a un biased opinion . Offered a position in the area, Im thinking about it- -I live near Newark NJ , and I know that city , while not the safest- get a bad rap -

Thanks
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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All high "minority" locations. Go figure!
New Orleans
Baton Rouge
Kansas City
Dayton

All those actually have large white populations.

Go up to Palmdale and Lancaster in LA County---the desert ghettos. Overwhemingly white. Same with plenty of the Inland Empire.

The stats above only deal with hard crime such as homicide, robbery assault, battery.

If one could quantify narcotics, street prostitution, and the numbers took into account DUIs (which in my opinion are probably second to homicide and sex crimes as the most serious), the cities represented would look vastly different.
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Old 04-10-2011, 05:38 PM
 
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All high "minority" locations. Go figure!
Gee, Im sorry. Can you be just a tad more racist??
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