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Old 03-25-2012, 11:43 AM
 
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Oh I agree. In fact I drove along Broadway about a week ago. I actually have walked all over LA, as I am part of a group that explores neighborhood.

I am not in any way suggesting that all of LA is beautiful. I know plenty of it is rundown. But I still stand by, that its not on the level of midwest and northeast cities. Keep in mind I'm not saying that this is a good or bad thing. In midwest or northeast cities there seems to be a very clear distinction between good and bad neighborhoods. In LA you have more areas that are mixed and in between.

I guess what I was referring to was the fact that is was dark and rainy a lot of the time, with skyscrapers everywhere. When I think of New York I think of it more at night, and maybe raining.
Thank you for responding, and I'm glad you walk around!
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:25 PM
 
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I do not believe crime is on the decline. In fact, it's on the rise on the Westside, and people I talk to from other areas are seeing it rise as well, particularly in the valley. I believe the real crime stats are being hidden, just like Tony Villar's tattoos.

Furthermore, the infrastructure is not improving -- just looke at the roads, sidewalks, etc. and tell me this city isn't becoming more Third World by the day.
Just to keep things in perspective here's an actual developing country. Remind me again which area in LA looks like that.

Also, are you in that group who only believes bad news from the government? and is suspicious of anything positive. Its the same LAPD who said crime was bad.
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:30 AM
 
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Just to keep things in perspective here's an actual developing country. Remind me again which area in LA looks like that.
There's no area in LA I've seen that looks like that. Remind me again where I said that there was?
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:16 PM
 
Location: LBC
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I never said it has worsened. I simply said it's still there. And very visible in sections. Personally, and I've said this before, I love the feeling of Broadway as it is, but it seems to me that many deny the obvious- the years of decay that's plainly visible throughout Broadway and much of downtown.
A lot of people talk about how it's changing. Yes, I'm sure it is. But Broadway specifically still holds with it much of the feeling of Blade Runner. Beyond that, over by the toy district and Chinatown, it continues.
The one thing that actually makes it more like the world of Blade Runner now is the rising population, but aside from that the urban decay is tempered by areas of gentrification and "revitalization".
And no one can deny Skid Row's influence on downtown. If you walk around it, it's right in your face, whether you choose to ignore it or not.
The whole theme of this thread is the trend and general direction of Los Angeles, specifically downtown, as it relates to the likelihood of its descent in to a nightmare predicted in an overrated movie.

Believe me, I'm aware of skid row, please do not lecture me. In fact, folks are ignoring it LESS now. The same gentrification that is often dismissed as ephemeral is also causing a heightened awareness of homelessness and mental health services, as a more broad segment of our city witnesses those realities on a daily basis.

Beyond that, even framing these problems as city-specific is improper. Those people were not born or raised on those streets. Itís regional and national shame, and dismissing it as the City of LA's problem alone is wrong. I know you did not imply that it was, but awareness is essential. And awareness is greater now.
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Old 03-26-2012, 08:47 PM
 
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The whole theme of this thread is the trend and general direction of Los Angeles, specifically downtown, as it relates to the likelihood of its descent in to a nightmare predicted in an overrated movie.

Believe me, I'm aware of skid row, please do not lecture me. In fact, folks are ignoring it LESS now. The same gentrification that is often dismissed as ephemeral is also causing a heightened awareness of homelessness and mental health services, as a more broad segment of our city witnesses those realities on a daily basis.

Beyond that, even framing these problems as city-specific is improper. Those people were not born or raised on those streets. Itís regional and national shame, and dismissing it as the City of LA's problem alone is wrong. I know you did not imply that it was, but awareness is essential. And awareness is greater now.
I apologize. I didn't mean to sound like I was lecturing you. What I should have written is "...Whether one chooses to ignore it not."
That being said, if awareness is being raised, that's of course a good thing.
All in all, Blade Runner is not a precise prediction of anything, and I don't think it ever intended to be. You call it overrated, I call it a visceral experience on the screen.
You said it was predicting a descent into a nightmare. As a whole the city and downtown LA is not at all going in that direction. But at the same time, I think that many individual cases of people on the streets downtown embody a nightmare far worse than Blade Runner, or any science fiction film could portray.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:57 PM
 
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Great movie, but they probably should have set it in the year 2119 instead.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Walmart and Target are moving into downtown LA. I think that pretty much says it all about how Blade Runner missed the boat completely.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Walmart and Target are moving into downtown LA. I think that pretty much says it all about how Blade Runner missed the boat completely.
Not really - it's just another sign of the coming apocalypse.
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