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Old 05-08-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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Why is the fact that the city has multiple centers(Hollywood, Century City, Westwood, Studio City, DTLA, etc...) a mistake? LA grew as it did because of the use of the automobile for transportation. One may prefer a compact city center type city like those on the east coast - but LA came of age in a different era. It should not be criticised for the circumstances that built it, but be recognized as a unique metro area of its own that is in no ay inferior to any other urban design. LA may have many centers - but DTLA is unquestionably the heart of the city. An author of a book I read noted that if the heart(DTLA) was pulled out - the rest of the city would continue to thrive without it, but that doesn't take away from the importance and value of DTLA on the rest of the city and even the region.
Even in the prewar golden age of downtown LA, Hollywood was already a major center of the city.

It was in the postwar era that it began to be displaced as the "western city center" by the Miracle Mile. Given how much money was further west, there was talk of developing a new "city center" even further west - as it were Century City won out over the Sunset Strip in the competition for a new center adjacent to Beverly Hills. Westwood later became a "center" as an expansion of the Beverly Hills/Century City center even further west.

Downtown getting back on its feet is a positive for the whole region.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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There are no words to describe the disgust they would have with the kinds of people and businesses downtown (example: Broadway & Los Angeles streets). Their heads would just explode.
While Broadway (circa the 1920's) was a premiere retail/commercial hub, the area to the east (present day skid row) was always a rough and tumble area for transients. And "okies" like Woody Guthrie populated those more industrial/low rent districts east of Los Angeles street.

And "sonoratown" (the old barrio near Olvera Street) was very much present in those days too.

Neighbohroods (like empires) rise and fall and sometimes rise again.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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While Broadway (circa the 1920's) was a premiere retail/commercial hub, the areas to the east (present day skid row) was always a rough and tumble area for transients. And "oikies" like Woody Guthrie populated those more industrial/low rent districts east of Los Angeles street.

And "sonoratown" (the old barrio near Olvera Street) was very much present in those days too.
There was already drug dealing on Spring Street in the 1920s according to newspaper accounts of that period.

The old prewar downtown was a meeting and mingling point for ALL classes in L.A., from the elites to criminal underclasses and everyone in between. Like what Times Square was in New York City during the same period. It was where everyone came together.

Old Chinatown and Bunker Hill were also filled with poverty in addition to Sonoratown.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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Mistakingly so.

Los Angeles is the ultimate example of the horrible disease called Urban Sprawl. Thankfully theres a (small) number of people trying to reverse this 60+ year mistake.
Tokyo is multinodal, as is London, as is Hong Kong. You could even argue that NYC is multinodal. All great cities that would never be called urban sprawl - just huge cities (like LA).

It's not a mistake, in fact in the long run it is better to have this urban design than something like Chicago, where there is a crush to get to one point of the city and then a similar crush to get back out - whether it is for work, entertainment, culture, etc. In Los Angeles you are never that far away from the action, whether it is on the Westside, Valley, Hollywood, etc.
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