Really impressed by Downtown LA (Los Angeles, Paradise: theatre, housing, suburbs)
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Once farmers field is up and going it is going to trigger tons of development into the area and all of downtown, it is very likely that LA central, avenue of angels and tons more hotels and residential towers rise since the new activity of the NFL and expanded convention space that will attract more people and conventions to LA.
Already happened. There are building plans for multiple new hotels downtown including the Banco Popular building at 4th/Spring, the Palace Theater next to Cliftons on Broadway, and a couple new ones on Grand. Theres actually only a handful of buildings left to be renovated, most on Broadway. The Garfield will probably be next if BofA can ever get its act together to sell the building.
I suspect that eventually the gentrification will eventually spill over to the areas of Pico Union west of the 110.
Already happened. There are building plans for multiple new hotels downtown including the Banco Popular building at 4th/Spring, the Palace Theater next to Cliftons on Broadway, and a couple new ones on Grand. Theres actually only a handful of buildings left to be renovated, most on Broadway. The Garfield will probably be next if BofA can ever get its act together to sell the building.
I suspect that eventually the gentrification will eventually spill over to the areas of Pico Union west of the 110.
What I mean is that new development of high rises, towers, and mixed use projects will most likely appear as an impact of farmers field to downtown. You know what I mean
Already happened. There are building plans for multiple new hotels downtown including the Banco Popular building at 4th/Spring, the Palace Theater next to Cliftons on Broadway, and a couple new ones on Grand. Theres actually only a handful of buildings left to be renovated, most on Broadway. The Garfield will probably be next if BofA can ever get its act together to sell the building.
I suspect that eventually the gentrification will eventually spill over to the areas of Pico Union west of the 110.
I think Pico Union is a ways off but agree the areas just north of it and west of the 110 are starting to gentrify. Also it is spreading south towards USC.
What I mean is that new development of high rises, towers, and mixed use projects will most likely appear as an impact of farmers field to downtown. You know what I mean
Thats not going to happen in downtown proper(North of the 10, east of the 110). Most useble land is gone, and theres already laws and measures in place to preserve the historic nature of places east of Olive St and north of Olympic. Whats left is conversion of the few abandoned/empty buildings, conversion of buildings along Broadway that are underutilized, and building up deteriorated non historic areas like Pico Union and the area to the immediate north, probably eventually to Macarthur Park.
The area around Farmers Field is almost entirely developed and will remain so until there is sufficient public transportation and parking structures so that the parking lots can be sold and built on. Thats going to take a decade or more.
Downtown is looking more and more awesome as the years go on. All of this crazyness has been thanks to AEG and the Staples Center. I can't wait to see what Farmers Field can do for the area. Staples Center x 2
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Once farmers field is up and going it is going to trigger tons of development into the area and all of downtown, it is very likely that LA central, avenue of angels and tons more hotels and residential towers rise since the new activity of the NFL and expanded convention space that will attract more people and conventions to LA.
Ugh, count me part of the tiny minority that is against Farmers Field. Consumes way too much footprint in space-constrained DTLA. It's insanity to build a new stadium with the Coliseum within hiking distance in Exposition Park. The Coliseum has plenty of Metro access (Expo, Silver, Blue). Along with the Rose Bowl, LA would then have stadium seating numbering a quarter million! That's way too many empty seats for most of the year. Farmers Field looks like every other McStadium that's in vogue now--totally anonymous. I'd be swayed a bit if it was as eye-popping and iconic as the Beijing National Stadium (Bird's Nest) but AEG seems to be architecturally really conservative. Why spend that much money to be stuck with a mundane design for decades and decades?
Not only that, they want to tear down the West Hall of the Convention Center. It's not the best looking structure but it's a dwindling example of 60s - 70s LA architecture. Hell, I have distinct memories of driving north on the 110 and seeing the tornado damage to the corner of the building--how cool is that? AEG claims that expanding the CC will bring many more conventions but I haven't heard of any specific commitments. I might be interested if they got an iron-clad guarantee that Comic-Con will move to LA. And while the West Hall is missing, where is the LA Auto Show, E3, Anime Expo plus all the other large shows going to go? What if we lose those to Long Beach or Anaheim or San Diego or Las Vegas? If we really need more convention space, just make an addition to what we already have.
I'm glad that people seem to enjoy LA Live but to me, it doesn't seem different than any other outdoor mall with all of its chain businesses. The jumbotrons are kinda cool although when they flash, I feel like I've been caught on a red light camera. Am I the only one who thinks the Regal Cinemas looks hideous? Looks like a warehouse with a garish paint scheme.
Final rant: The Ritz-Carlton/JW Marriott building is a mess. The Ritz Carlton has some interesting features. The variegated glass panels look nice and when seen in profile from a distance, the lighting on its edges gives the illusion of a 50s-style rocket ship on the launch pad. On the other hand, it looks like its going to fall over and is totally ruined by the artlessly attached box which is the JW Marriott. The Pontiac Aztek of architecture.
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I think Pico Union is a ways off but agree the areas just north of it and west of the 110 are starting to gentrify. Also it is spreading south towards USC.
It's also spreading outward from USC/Expo Park. That area is unrecognizable from 10 years ago. Despite the awful murder of the two Chinese graduate students, the amount of late night foot traffic on Figueroa is amazing. Young women can be seen walking up to Chano's after midnight. I wonder what it would take to connect DTLA to K-town along Wilshire--the distance is really short. It'd be cool if Chinatown could be more connected to the rest of downtown but the 101 is a huge barrier. There is always a small cohort of people hanging out at the handful of late night restaurants. Maybe a trolley would help.
It's nice that Broadway is finally getting the recognition that it deserves. The Orpheum marquee is often lit but the other theaters are usually dark. One night I saw two or three theaters with lit marquees and the difference in the ambience of Broadway was dramatic. If all dozen or so of the theaters had fixed and lit marquees, the effect would be transformative.
Already happened. There are building plans for multiple new hotels downtown including the Banco Popular building at 4th/Spring, the Palace Theater next to Cliftons on Broadway, and a couple new ones on Grand.
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The Banco Popular building is being converted to housing.
The Palace Theater is going to be a hotel? What are the plans for this building? Clifton's is getting renovated and a new Figaro Bistro will open on the same side of the street. If the Palace is getting re-done...that block of Broadway will start to look nice.
Ugh, count me part of the tiny minority that is against Farmers Field. Consumes way too much footprint in space-constrained DTLA. It's insanity to build a new stadium with the Coliseum within hiking distance in Exposition Park. The Coliseum has plenty of Metro access (Expo, Silver, Blue). Along with the Rose Bowl, LA would then have stadium seating numbering a quarter million! That's way too many empty seats for most of the year. Farmers Field looks like every other McStadium that's in vogue now--totally anonymous. I'd be swayed a bit if it was as eye-popping and iconic as the Beijing National Stadium (Bird's Nest) but AEG seems to be architecturally really conservative. Why spend that much money to be stuck with a mundane design for decades and decades?
Not only that, they want to tear down the West Hall of the Convention Center. It's not the best looking structure but it's a dwindling example of 60s - 70s LA architecture. Hell, I have distinct memories of driving north on the 110 and seeing the tornado damage to the corner of the building--how cool is that? AEG claims that expanding the CC will bring many more conventions but I haven't heard of any specific commitments. I might be interested if they got an iron-clad guarantee that Comic-Con will move to LA. And while the West Hall is missing, where is the LA Auto Show, E3, Anime Expo plus all the other large shows going to go? What if we lose those to Long Beach or Anaheim or San Diego or Las Vegas? If we really need more convention space, just make an addition to what we already have.
I'm glad that people seem to enjoy LA Live but to me, it doesn't seem different than any other outdoor mall with all of its chain businesses. The jumbotrons are kinda cool although when they flash, I feel like I've been caught on a red light camera. Am I the only one who thinks the Regal Cinemas looks hideous? Looks like a warehouse with a garish paint scheme.
Final rant: The Ritz-Carlton/JW Marriott building is a mess. The Ritz Carlton has some interesting features. The variegated glass panels look nice and when seen in profile from a distance, the lighting on its edges gives the illusion of a 50s-style rocket ship on the launch pad. On the other hand, it looks like its going to fall over and is totally ruined by the artlessly attached box which is the JW Marriott. The Pontiac Aztek of architecture.
It's also spreading outward from USC/Expo Park. That area is unrecognizable from 10 years ago. Despite the awful murder of the two Chinese graduate students, the amount of late night foot traffic on Figueroa is amazing. Young women can be seen walking up to Chano's after midnight. I wonder what it would take to connect DTLA to K-town along Wilshire--the distance is really short. It'd be cool if Chinatown could be more connected to the rest of downtown but the 101 is a huge barrier. There is always a small cohort of people hanging out at the handful of late night restaurants. Maybe a trolley would help.
It's nice that Broadway is finally getting the recognition that it deserves. The Orpheum marquee is often lit but the other theaters are usually dark. One night I saw two or three theaters with lit marquees and the difference in the ambience of Broadway was dramatic. If all dozen or so of the theaters had fixed and lit marquees, the effect would be transformative.
Well, I'm glad you aren't the one making the decisions then. I happen to love the idea and the look of Farmers Field. The bird's nest looks hideous to me and is currently underused. Now that's a waste of money.
The Coliseum is not a long-term option for the NFL, otherwise the Rams and Raiders would still be here. The Coliseum is old, was out-dated decades ago, has a horrible concourse, is way too large and has not luxury suites. An NFL team would never go for that as a long-term situation.
Farmers Field and LA Live and Staples Center are are/were awesome ideas and I hope AEG keeps investing in the area.
Well, I'm glad you aren't the one making the decisions then. I happen to love the idea and the look of Farmers Field. The bird's nest looks hideous to me and is currently underused. Now that's a waste of money.
The Coliseum is not a long-term option for the NFL, otherwise the Rams and Raiders would still be here. The Coliseum is old, was out-dated decades ago, has a horrible concourse, is way too large and has not luxury suites. An NFL team would never go for that as a long-term situation.
Farmers Field and LA Live and Staples Center are are/were awesome ideas and I hope AEG keeps investing in the area.
Ugh. Not a fan at all.
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