Los Angeles and the illegal immigration problem (rent, lease)

[gfluneedit]

Originally Posted by Perdu

Example of less vituperative way of rephrasing an item in the last post: Los Angeles is the only place in the world where people refuse to learn English or even to try to learn English to better their ambitions or chances in the global business community. Why? They seem to be only interested in their fellow Hispanics, and have little desire to fit into the social fabric here and elsewhere beyond their own culture.

And factoid to girngo estmeno: even as we write, the Open Court learning systems have printed up their material in Spanish, in defiance of the California statewide English immersion mandated law, and in preparation for requests from parents and the L.A. mayor to return to the old, and proven less efficient, learning in Spanish only for years and years and years and years. Why? Because they just wanna.

And guess what they will end up with.

The same thing they have in mexico or any of the other countries these derelicts originate from.

Once enough americans move out of California these people will be no more capable of accounting for themselves then they were in their 3rd world countries of origin.

What are they going to do?
Panhandle welfare checks from each other ?

As far as harsh remarks...when someone steals from you and your family you don't worry about being vituperative.

It's the least of my concerns as far as this disaster goes.

Perdue I dont care what france does. They are a nation who owes it freedom to the USA and shows no respect for the tens of thousands of US soldiers that died for it.

As far as them maintaining their own culture, you better look twice. They embrassed the mulsim terrorist dictators to satisfy their greed and invited so many muslim radicals in that they have lost their culture.

Haven't you seen the riots in france ?

Those should serve as a warning . It coming to the USA !

All these 'hardworking,looking for a better way of life' illegals will do the same here.

[gfluneedit]

Originally Posted by Perdu

Example of less vituperative way of rephrasing an item in the last post: Los Angeles is the only place in the world where people refuse to learn English or even to try to learn English to better their ambitions or chances in the global business community. Why? In Los Angeles, they seem to be only interested in their fellow Hispanics, and have little desire to fit into the social fabric here and elsewhere beyond the culture of their former countries. Defiance to any assimilation of American ways is promoted by their Spanish-language media under the guise of pride. Newsflash: you can have pride in your heritage without nonstop rancor to the country you chose to come to.

And factoid to girngo estmeno: even as we write, the Open Court learning systems have printed up their material in Spanish, in defiance of the California statewide English immersion mandated law, and in preparation for requests from parents and the L.A. mayor to return to the old, and proven less efficient, learning in Spanish only for years and years and years and years. Why? Because they just wanna.

gfluneedit, don't you want to get your ideas across? Then don't use quasi-fascist terms like "inferior." The French Academie embraces retention of the French language in France not because it considers all others inferior, but because it is the correct, nationalistic thing to do for its own citizenry, to promote solidarity and continuity of culture.

France was the worst example to chose .

All it does is to demonstrate that language by itself with not maintain a nations culture.

A nation needs to control is immigration so that it demographic is not significantly and abruptly altered.

No nation can permit a foreign nation to control it's immigrant population like mexico is attempting with the USA.

Nordic countries by the way , are now beginning to react to excessive illegal immigration by deporting huge numbers of them.

They have elections being won by new parties who's main platform is anti-immigration.

So no one can tell me that it cannot be done in the US.

[gringo istmeño]

Originally Posted by gfluneedit

Spanish in an inferior language because the vast majority of western nations with healthy economies speak and teach english as their primary language.

One of the reasons that mexicans, nicaraugans, cubans, hatians ,hondurans and others are panhandling off americans is because they are decades in the past.

And your comment is evidence of the unwillingness of these people to self-reliance.

The want to leech off americans and not face the reality of what has taken place.

They want to panhandle from americans and at the same time adhere to the rediculous notion that their education, culture and language are the equivalent and sustainable.


No child left behind, refers to americans.
This is just another LaRaza mantra taught to panhandlers.
Where did you get the idea that america has committed to educating every child in the world at the expense of the american taxpayer ?

WRONG AGAIN! Dang- you must be going for some kind of record- No Child Left Behind refers to all children in American schools, and no, I never even implied that America has committed to educating every child in the world? Where do you come up with this stuff?

[gringo istmeño]

Originally Posted by gfluneedit

It's useful in California only because the crime of illegal invasion is rampant there.

If it wasn't for the presence of parasite illegals, spanish wouldn't be key to any job you worked in america.

So what are you doing working at the social services department issuing welfare checks to illegals ?

Or are you at the health department tracking down the latest outbreak of ecoli ?

Or do you working in criminal justice as a translator to arrested gang members ?

Or do you work for a construction firm directing the minimum wage illegals for the employer ?

If there weren`t any illegal immigrants, Spanish would still be key because there are 35,000,000 legal hispanic immigrants, and plenty that struggle with English. Plus with Mexico being on the other side of our border, Spanish has always been present in southern California- look at all the names of towns and cities and street names- mostly Spanish. Spanish was spoken in California before English was, so it always was and always will be a critical language to know.

[gfluneedit]

Originally Posted by gringo istmeño

WRONG AGAIN! Dang- you must be going for some kind of record- No Child Left Behind refers to all children in American schools, and no, I never even implied that America has committed to educating every child in the world? Where do you come up with this stuff?

There's no arguement here.

The vast majority of americans do not want one dime going towards the education of the offspring of illegal aliens derelicts.

No Child Left Behind, applies to americans, not any drug addict or rapist that comes here illegally, or the offspring they pop out and cannot support.

[gfluneedit]

Originally Posted by gringo istmeño

If there weren`t any illegal immigrants, Spanish would still be key because there are 35,000,000 legal hispanic immigrants, and plenty that struggle with English. Plus with Mexico being on the other side of our border, Spanish has always been present in southern California- look at all the names of towns and cities and street names- mostly Spanish. Spanish was spoken in California before English was, so it always was and always will be a critical language to know.

I dont know what you are smoking but legal immigration quotas don't come anywhere near 35 million.

You are correct on the fact that they struggle with english.

As I said they are from 3rd world countries and are easily manipulated by politicians in those countries, made to believe that americans are obligated to care for them.

Made to believe that they don't need the education they lack.

Futhermore they are way too lazy to be educated. They defraud welfare instead.

[gringo istmeño]

Originally Posted by Perdu

And factoid to girngo estmeno: even as we write, the Open Court learning systems have printed up their material in Spanish, in defiance of the California statewide English immersion mandated law, and in preparation for requests from parents and the L.A. mayor to return to the old, and proven less efficient, learning in Spanish only for years and years and years and years. Why? Because they just wanna.

There is a law in California schools that says if 10% of the students speak a language other than English, then it is required that materials be presented in that primary language for the parents. Do you think you could learn anything if it were taught in Spanish? You cannot learn a language and at the same time learn a subject material. The best time to learn Englsih is not during a history lecture! So they have specialized programs to try to teach English (to both parents and students), but there is also a responsibility to teach the required material, which needs to be done in the students` most fluent language. I`m not saying that this is a good thing, but a necessary thing, because those children need to be educated first. It will do them no good to speak English if they don`t have anything smart to say!

[gfluneedit]

Originally Posted by gringo istmeño

If there weren`t any illegal immigrants, Spanish would still be key because there are 35,000,000 legal hispanic immigrants, and plenty that struggle with English. Plus with Mexico being on the other side of our border, Spanish has always been present in southern California- look at all the names of towns and cities and street names- mostly Spanish. Spanish was spoken in California before English was, so it always was and always will be a critical language to know.

It is by no means critical.

It's wrongfully used to communicate with these aliens.

It's used by the police forces that arrest the thugs and the welfare departments that assist them in stealing funds.

The typical american needs to know 3 spanish words...taco, burrito and nacho.

The rest of that language is useless to americans and the furthest thing from critical.

In fact it is a nusance.

[gfluneedit]

Originally Posted by gringo istmeño

There is a law in California schools that says if 10% of the students speak a language other than English, then it is required that materials be presented in that primary language for the parents. Do you think you could learn anything if it were taught in Spanish? You cannot learn a language and at the same time learn a subject material. The best time to learn Englsih is not during a history lecture! So they have specialized programs to try to teach English (to both parents and students), but there is also a responsibility to teach the required material, which needs to be done in the students` most fluent language. I`m not saying that this is a good thing, but a necessary thing, because those children need to be educated first. It will do them no good to speak English if they don`t have anything smart to say!

No, I don't, nor do I care to .

And the vast majority of americans want it out of our schools and off our phone systems.

If these illegal criminals want to be educated in that language go to a country where they use it.

They don't belong here in the first place.

because those children need to be educated first.

What they need is to be handcuffed and sent back to where they came from.

[gringo istmeño]

Originally Posted by gfluneedit

It's useful in California only because the crime of illegal invasion is rampant there.

If it wasn't for the presence of parasite illegals, spanish wouldn't be key to any job you worked in america.

So what are you doing working at the social services department issuing welfare checks to illegals ?

Or are you at the health department tracking down the latest outbreak of ecoli ?

Or do you working in criminal justice as a translator to arrested gang members ?

Or do you work for a construction firm directing the minimum wage illegals for the employer ?

Face it Gfluneedit, knowing a second modern language is useful anywhere in the world- and Spanish is the 3rd most spoken language on the planet. Just about any job you apply to will give you preference if you are bilingual- it is an important skill, because this country has and always will be composed of speakers of various languages.

What is your opinion about all the Americans that commit welfare fraud? Or do you deny that they exist? Is that just more propaganda from La Raza?

I was relieved to see that you also have it in for the French, and not just the Latinos.

Those are all very good guesses as to my career, and some I wish I had thought of earlier while I was applying for jobs in California. But no, ironically I am an EFL teacher (English as a Foreign Language) here in Mexico, and I will be working in education in California. Don`t worry, I`ll have all those "dirty" illegals cleaned up and speaking English in no time. Or I`ll be dirtying up your kids with Spanish.