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Unread 12-08-2006, 12:07 PM
 
Location: huatulco, oaxaca, mexico
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Originally Posted by gfluneedit View Post
Then why does the communist LaRaza group claim that the southwestern part of the USA really should belong to mexico ?

By their own logic mexico shouldn't even belong to hispanics.

In fact by their own logic mexican hispanics are the worst of the worst, because first the stole mexico now they are invading the USA neither of which they belong in.

THERE IS SOME DIFFICULTY ANSWERING THAT ONE IF YOU ARE ONE OF THESE LaRaza TRAINED INVADERS !

LOL
I think you are confusing yourself. My guess as to why La Raza claims SW US is because they come from indigenous groups. I think they claim the US for their indigenous connection to the land. Unlike Americans, most Mexicans have indigenous blood- the vast majority we could say. So that is their claim to California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico. I`m not saying this is right or wrong, just what I think is their claim.

 
Unread 12-08-2006, 12:09 PM
 
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Just calling you out on another inconsistency- yesterday they were afraid to protest in Mexico, today they come from a culture that riots. So which is it?
They riot in america and amongst each other but have no authority to do it in their own country.

They are indigents and scrubs in their own country for that very reason.

So they resort to coming here in the hopes that americans will feed them and teach them, because they cannot feed and teach themselves.

So how do incapable people attempt to get what they want?
They come to the USA and riot because they are incapable of achieving it through their own skills.

Like animals they resort to rioting, gangs and violence as a desperate substitute for intelligence.
 
Unread 12-08-2006, 12:15 PM
 
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I think you are confusing yourself. My guess as to why La Raza claims SW US is because they come from indigenous groups. I think they claim the US for their indigenous connection to the land. Unlike Americans, most Mexicans have indigenous blood- the vast majority we could say. So that is their claim to California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico. I`m not saying this is right or wrong, just what I think is their claim.

Ahhh son ....let me clue you in on something very very basic.

And this demonstrates very clearly that you have no BA or any education for that matter.

Hispanics are not native.

I almost feel embarrassed telling anyone something this basic....hispanics originate from Spain ....watch .....hispanic hi spanic...get it ???

"spanic"

OK?

I will teach you.

Thats what illegals are in america for too , they want americans to teach them and feed their children because they are not able to do it themselves.

And they are lazy, the very first place they head to when they get here is the welfare dept.
 
Unread 12-08-2006, 12:20 PM
 
Location: huatulco, oaxaca, mexico
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Originally Posted by gfluneedit View Post
You have BS not a BA.

What does does archeology say about who was here before the indians and how the first people got to america ?

Answer:
They dont know.
No one does .
So what you are studing is a lot of 'we don't know'.
They only know the history that everyone else knows too.
So a BA in archeology does nothing to make anyone an authority in american history.

So if you do have a BA , (and I doubt that)........it's a BA in..... 'I don't know, I have no clue what happened'

Yep by that logic the US military should be shotting the illegals in the streets as they protest in a country they have no business being in.
There was a land bridge from Siberia that connected to North America- that is how the first Indigenous people populated America- they walked over,better yet, they migrated, This is why all indigenous languages come from a similar root found around Siberia. I don`t have a BA in Archeology, these are just basic facts that we all learned in jr high. Wow, I never considered it before now, but I guess I am somewhat of an authority in American history.
 
Unread 12-08-2006, 12:24 PM
 
Location: huatulco, oaxaca, mexico
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Originally Posted by gfluneedit View Post
They riot in america and amongst each other but have no authority to do it in their own country.

They are indigents and scrubs in their own country for that very reason.

So they resort to coming here in the hopes that americans will feed them and teach them, because they cannot feed and teach themselves.

So how do incapable people attempt to get what they want?
They come to the USA and riot because they are incapable of achieving it through their own skills.

Like animals they resort to rioting, gangs and violence as a desperate substitute for intelligence.
You really make this too easy. First of all, nobody has authority to riot anywhere, and secondly, there is a difference between rioting and protesting. Thirdly, Gang activity is 100% American- can`t pin that one on illegals. Many illegals participate, but they didn`t bring it with them, and they are not substituting violence for intelligence. By the way, what do you substitue for intelligence?
 
Unread 12-08-2006, 12:24 PM
 
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There was a land bridge from Siberia that connected to North America- that is how the first Indigenous people populated America- they walked over,better yet, they migrated, This is why all indigenous languages come from a similar root found around Siberia. I don`t have a BA in Archeology, these are just basic facts that we all learned in jr high. Wow, I never considered it before now, but I guess I am somewhat of an authority in American history.
There's no evidence of anyone crossing a land bridge it is a theory.

And if the theory was correct the indians would resemble the race that crossed.

Where are the indians on the other side of the land bridge ?

And was anyone here prior to the indians and this supposed fantasy land bridge crossing through the artic ?

No one has a clue.

When they teach in school you have to listen carefully ....theory is not history...the theory is attempting to explain something they are have difficulty explaining, but they have no evidence to substantiated what took place.

You need to play attention in class.

There are also theories about the first people sailing over from pacific islands.

But no one know for sure what took place and how long north america has been inhabited.

They also used to teach that Columbus was the first european in north america and that ended up being wrong.

So learn to pay attention in school.

Here is something for you to think very carefully about....the indians passed down history to their offspring ...some of that included a flood story that is identical to flood stories around the world...these flood stories date back to thousands of years before Christ... but... yet no where in indian history will you here them speak of ancestors crossing an artic land
bridge.

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but I guess I am somewhat of an authority in American history.
That just got dispelled rather quickly.

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Unread 12-08-2006, 12:33 PM
 
Location: huatulco, oaxaca, mexico
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Default c`mon dad

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Originally Posted by gfluneedit View Post
Ahhh son ....let me clue you in on something very very basic.

And this demonstrates very clearly that you have no BA or any education for that matter.

Hispanics are not native.

I almost feel embarrassed telling anyone something this basic....hispanics originate from Spain ....watch .....hispanic hi spanic...get it ???

"spanic"

OK?

I will teach you.

Thats what illegals are in america for too , they want americans to teach them and feed their children because they are not able to do it themselves.

And they are lazy, the very first place they head to when they get here is the welfare dept.
But Dad- you are not listening to me- I didn`t say hispanics are native, I said Mexicans have Indigenous blood. Almost all Mexicans have native roots in the North American continent. Some northern Mexicans have indigenous roots in the USA. Some southern Indians have indigenous roots in Mexico. Do you know what mestizo means? If not, then you are in no position to explain or teach me anything about history or hispanic culture.

If I were going to make up a college degree, I think I would be a little more ambitious than a BA in history from Humbodt State University. I didn`t think the fact was important enough to threaten you and make you deny it. But you can decide what I am and where I`ve been and what I`ve done with my life, even though you have no idea who I am. It`s ok with me.
 
Unread 12-08-2006, 12:38 PM
 
Location: huatulco, oaxaca, mexico
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Originally Posted by gfluneedit View Post
There's no evidence of anyone crossing a land bridge it is a theory.

And if the theory was correct the indians would resemble the race that crossed.

Where are the indians on the other side of the land bridge ?

And was anyone here prior to the indians and this supposed fantasy land bridge crossing through the artic ?

No one has a clue.

When they teach in school you have to listen carefully ....theory is not history...the theory is attempting to explain something they are have difficulty explaining, but they have no evidence to substantiated what took place.

You need to play attention in class.

There are also theories about the first people sailing over from pacific islands.

But no one know for sure what took place and how long north america has been inhabited.

They also used to teach that Columbus was the first european in north america and that ended up being wrong.

So learn to pay attention in school.
Then why is it printed in History books?

And Indigenous people do have physical traits that resemble Siberians and Chinese. That is why most Indians have more slanted eyes and darker skin. They have found evidence of similar lifestyles/artifacts/languages on both sides:Alaska and Siberia. These aren`t coincidences, but rather proof.
 
Unread 12-08-2006, 12:44 PM
 
Location: huatulco, oaxaca, mexico
231 posts, read 293,484 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gfluneedit View Post
There's no evidence of anyone crossing a land bridge it is a theory.

And if the theory was correct the indians would resemble the race that crossed.

Where are the indians on the other side of the land bridge ?

And was anyone here prior to the indians and this supposed fantasy land bridge crossing through the artic ?

No one has a clue.

When they teach in school you have to listen carefully ....theory is not history...the theory is attempting to explain something they are have difficulty explaining, but they have no evidence to substantiated what took place.

You need to play attention in class.

There are also theories about the first people sailing over from pacific islands.

But no one know for sure what took place and how long north america has been inhabited.

They also used to teach that Columbus was the first european in north america and that ended up being wrong.

So learn to pay attention in school.

Here is something for you to think very carefully about....the indians passed down history to their offspring ...some of that included a flood story that is identical to flood stories around the world...these flood stories date back to thousands of years before Christ... but... yet no where in indian history will you here them speak of ancestors crossing an artic land
bridge.



That just got dispelled rather quickly.
Anyone who studied history after 7th grade realized that Columbus did not discover America.

Native Americans passes down Myths to their offspring- tales and stories- and they are strikingly similar to the Bible. There was no written history for native Americans, so they had to do with story telling. Some Americans tell their kids we come from the Adam and Eve- Is that true history?

You can`t seem to grasp the land bridge concept- it wasn`t an over-night hike. It took thiousands upon thousands of years to fill up the Americas. The same Indians that you find in Peru got there by migrating from Siberia. I already read my history books- I already earned my degree. You can either take my word for it, or you can look it up for yourself. But falling back on the cop-out perspective that "Nobody knows" is ridiculous. The one who doesn`t know is you.

Last edited by gringo istmeño; 12-08-2006 at 12:55 PM..
 
Unread 12-08-2006, 12:46 PM
 
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but I have a BA in history. Have you heard of Archeology?
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I don`t have a BA in Archeology
You are asking me if I have ever heard of archeology and telling me at the same you are no expert in it whatsoever.

That is why it does not suprise me that you are unaware that there is no proof that anyone crossed an artic land bridge , and that you are unaware that there competing theories regarding the first americans.

The operative word is theories ....they are all theories at this point.

You need to look up the definition of theory.
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