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Old 05-12-2013, 03:07 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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No you need to post a link about bus-only lanes being removed in 2005. It never happened, you are making that up.
It may have been 2006. Whatever the case, they were in place for a very short time.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:09 AM
 
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Sounds like they had them in Santa Monica. So you are half correct.
No, you've got it ass-backwards. SM was smart enough not to allow them on their part of Wilshire.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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I'll admit that I was wrong - the bus-only lanes will hurt traffic. Though there has been an EIR and I believe additional environmental studies (as there has been so much whining, they were required) to show the traffic impact will be manageable. It will increase driving times down Wilshire during peak periods (again these are Bus-only only during rush hour). Tough luck car-commuters, there are more bus commuters during those hours than car commuters. Tyranny of the majority I suppose (probably the first time you could ever say that about PT riders in Los Angeles!)

Maybe you guys should take the 720 to work instead
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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The first leg of this bus-only lanes on Wilshire opened today - that was fast!

New bus lanes to open on Wilshire Boulevard | Metro's The Source
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:24 PM
 
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Sounds like they had them in Santa Monica. So you are half correct. It appears that selfish or stupid car-drivers clogged the lanes and hat rendered them ineffective. Proper enforcement is necessary for them to be effective.

According to Streetsblog, more people commute by bus on Wilshire than car at peak periods. Sounds like you car commuters just need to suck it up. I don't think eliminating a lane on Wilshire is going to make it that much worse, and I think may make traffic flow more efficient

Then that would NOT have been and MTA project, but a City of SM project? This is the first time for MTA along Wilshire, so the "they" reference is unclear. This is a first along Wilshire outside of SM. I don't think this MTA project will have the lanes in city of SM, anyway. However, the wealthy who live in the canyon of high-rise buildings between SM Blvd and Westwood Blvd. were the biggest whiners who fought NOT to have the lanes in that portion of Wilshire.
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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There is a cadre of car haters who continue to replay the "angry mob chasing down cars" part of Ernest Callenbach's "Ecotopia Emerging" in their mind's eye.

Ecotopia Emerging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Back when I still bought into such visions myself, I never would have imagined we'd see the day where a good many of the notions described in that series would actually be happening. Back then, I thought that "the man" would be in power forever.

I think in a way, that sense of "Ecotopia" being impossible prevented a degree of critical thinking. When you think that your notions will never translate into real action, you can be very risky with your notions. Now that such things are being made into mainstream policy, I feel remorse about having participated in the early stages of Ecofascism.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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There is a cadre of car haters who continue to replay the "angry mob chasing down cars" part of Ernest Callenbach's "Ecotopia Emerging" in their mind's eye.

Ecotopia Emerging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Back when I still bought into such visions myself, I never would have imagined we'd see the day where a good many of the notions described in that series would actually be happening. Back then, I thought that "the man" would be in power forever.

I think in a way, that sense of "Ecotopia" being impossible prevented a degree of critical thinking. When you think that your notions will never translate into real action, you can be very risky with your notions. Now that such things are being made into mainstream policy, I feel remorse about having participated in the early stages of Ecofascism.
Wait am I reading you right, bus only lanes = Ecofascism?

Seems like it is more evening of the playing-field to me.

Oh BTW, apparently Metro has similar plans for 4-5 more bus corridors w/ bus-only lanes. Muhahaha
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