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Old 11-24-2007, 04:58 PM
 
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You guys are ridiculous. Most of L.A. is too far above sea level to be flooded in 50 years. It's nothing like what happening in the South. Take a look at an elevation map. Foolish comments. Although it will be basically Mexico. Much of Hollywood is making serious efforts to take business elsewhere. Additionally, many corporations are beginning to leave L.A.. It's going to become a sad place when the rich wisen up and leave the new Tijuana. Ghettofabulous L.A..
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:18 PM
 
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Additionally, many corporations are beginning to leave L.A..
Its been happening for a long time. Just recently, Nissan left Torrance where they'd been since coming to America. The story I heard is that Tennessee threw all kinds of goodies at them to make the move and California just shrugged their shoulders at them so they left. Now the big trademark Nissan building sits there with a big "Entire building for Lease" banner. Talk to anyone who runs a business and they can rattle off a list of small and medium sized businesses they've seen leave for friendlier states. I wonder who's going to pay for the People's Republic of California welfare state when all the good jobs have left.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Its been happening for a long time. Just recently, Nissan left Torrance where they'd been since coming to America. The story I heard is that Tennessee threw all kinds of goodies at them to make the move and California just shrugged their shoulders at them so they left. Now the big trademark Nissan building sits there with a big "Entire building for Lease" banner. Talk to anyone who runs a business and they can rattle off a list of small and medium sized businesses they've seen leave for friendlier states. I wonder who's going to pay for the People's Republic of California welfare state when all the good jobs have left.
The vast majority of companies that move actually move to cheaper counties within California-not out of state. Our job market is more impacted by new births and deaths than by companies leaving the state. Strange but true.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Its been happening for a long time. Just recently, Nissan left Torrance where they'd been since coming to America.

Lockheed and Raytheon (Hughes Aircraft) too.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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The vast majority of companies that move actually move to cheaper counties within California-not out of state. Our job market is more impacted by new births and deaths than by companies leaving the state. Strange but true.
There was just an article on this in the LA Times.

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Old 11-24-2007, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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I wouldn't at all be suprised in 50 years, if the US states are different, if we lose parts of the country to mexico, or radical mexican aztlan dreamers, etc. Who knows..

In 50 years?

-35-50 million people

-3rd world shanty towns in the "city", whats left of it. The worst areas of 2007 will look like paradise compared to 2057.

-Maybe some city traditions left, those are hard to kill. The Rose Parade, Hollywood Walk of Fame. The Hollywood sign. Maybe..

-The "prosperous" areas getting smaller and smaller. The Palos Verdes peninsula shrinking down to a third of what it is now. Malibu shrinking by 80%.

-The "suburbs" are going to be barstow, palm springs, the edge of bakersfield.

I hope they expand the freeways by then

What industries are going to be left by then? Who's going to be running them if the schools are so bad now?
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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There was just an article on this in the LA Times.

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Its documented in a Report that was released earlier this year. And it makes perfect sense considering the continued remarkable growth in California's economy.

Does this mean things are great? No. But are they as dire as some naysayers say? Hardly.

Claim of California Jobs Moving Out of State Shown by Study to be a Myth - California Progress Report (http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2007/11/claim_of_califo.html - broken link)
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I wouldn't at all be suprised in 50 years, if the US states are different, if we lose parts of the country to mexico, or radical mexican aztlan dreamers, etc. Who knows..

In 50 years?

-35-50 million people
If things get as bad as you think they'll get, there will be a massive DECREASE in population, not a massive increase. For example, like how Detroit has lost over half its population in the last 50 years going from 2 million to 800,000 and falling.

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-The "prosperous" areas getting smaller and smaller. The Palos Verdes peninsula shrinking down to a third of what it is now. Malibu shrinking by 80%.
Global warming in the case of PV? Malibu is so disaster prone that any number of things could destroy it.

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The "suburbs" are going to be barstow, palm springs, the edge of bakersfield.

I hope they expand the freeways by then
If things get as bad as you think, there won't be any sprawl. And only the wealthy will be able to drive private cars by 2020, much less 2057.

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What industries are going to be left by then? Who's going to be running them if the schools are so bad now?
There has NEVER been any time in L.A.s history since it became part of the US that it has had a majority who were born there. California as a whole has had the same percentage of non-natives (66%) since the Civil War. No L.A. mayor in the 20th century was born in L.A. (Hahn was the first L.A. born mayor since Pio Pico).Now, if things do go to complete crap, people from elsewhere will stop coming. There's a reason why New Orleans had fewer immigrants pre-Katrina than any other US city. There's a reason why Detroit and Cleveland are no longer major destinations for immigrants.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:52 PM
 
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I think LA will either (A) be underwater, or (B) be an anarchistic sewer that deserves to sink under water.
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:54 AM
 
Location: City of Angels
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Its documented in a Report that was released earlier this year. And it makes perfect sense considering the continued remarkable growth in California's economy.

Does this mean things are great? No. But are they as dire as some naysayers say? Hardly.

Claim of California Jobs Moving Out of State Shown by Study to be a Myth - California Progress Report (http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2007/11/claim_of_califo.html - broken link)
I agree with you completely. California remains the 7th or 8th largest economy in the entire world (anchored by Los Angeles) and the biggest contributer to the GDP of the United States.

It's home to the most Fortune 500 companies and the most publicly traded companies in general, home to the most billionaires and millionaires in the entire world, has some of the greatest universities and leading research institutions in every field from medicine to hi technology, has the greatest number of educated people on the planet....the list of mosts and firsts goes on forever. Needless to say, I think we'll be fine.
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