Los Angeles Gets Serious About Its Downtown-WSJ ARTICLE (Inglewood: homeless, ordinance)

[GatsbyGatz]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Wow ...DTLA is just making most of the rest of L.A look crappy now!...

Pretty sure other LA hoods have had Trader Joes for a long time now. LOL

But in all honesty, Trader Joes would be a welcome addition downtown. Anyone interested in petitioning for In-N-Out to open shop someplace downtown?

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by GatsbyGatz

Pretty sure other LA hoods have had Trader Joes for a long time now. LOL

But in all honesty, Trader Joes would be a welcome addition downtown. Anyone interested in petitioning for In-N-Out to open shop someplace downtown?

Tough sell, they want (require) a drive thru and parking. Their only urban style stores are in SF and - - Glendale.

[Chicano3000X]

Originally Posted by munchitup

Tough sell, they want (require) a drive thru and parking. Their only urban style stores are in SF and - - Glendale.

Parking Lot Drive Through? Like the McDonalds in Downtown Glendale?

[Troy Troy]

In my opnion, Downtown is simply becoming what it always should have been in the first place! Why the former City Councils, Mayors or whomever allwoed it to get rundown in the first place should be considered criminal.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by Troy Troy

In my opnion, Downtown is simply becoming what it always should have been in the first place! Why the former City Councils, Mayors or whomever allwoed it to get rundown in the first place should be considered criminal.

Shouldn't they be considered criminal for letting other parts of the city get rundown as well?..

[sargentodiaz]

I think the main reason for the decay of DTLA stems from the late ]40s to early 50's when it was decided that the car was the transportation mode of the future. It caused the city to sprawl, making electric trains and buses almost obsolete. There was an inter-city railway system that worked quite well.

So, what do we see now? Billions spent to build a subway in an earthquake prone area and commuter trains that compete with street and highway traffic.

From that time, political power slipped out of the hands of the city council into those of the county commission.

[ProjectMersh]

Originally Posted by Troy Troy

In my opnion, Downtown is simply becoming what it always should have been in the first place! Why the former City Councils, Mayors or whomever allwoed it to get rundown in the first place should be considered criminal.

Yeah, I don't think you can blame downtown's fall at the hands of multiple Mayors and city councils. The post world war II suburbanization was an economic/cultural trend that no mayor could stop.

A careful reading of recent LA history would show Tom Bradley (mayor from '73 to '93) as very aggressively building up downtown LA (massive redevelopment subsidies for office development downtown in the '70/80's). If anything, he was often accused of focusing on downtown and ignoring the valley. Hence, his re-routing of the redline to universal city/north hollywood after the explosion in the Fairfax District gave cover to Waxman to kill the Wilshire subway. That change gave Bradley a chance to say to valley voters..."hey I do care about the valley..."

[phoenixmike11]

Downtown: The 11 New Bars You Need to Know About - Digest - Los Angeles magazine

New bars in downtown LA.

[GatsbyGatz]

Originally Posted by Troy Troy

In my opnion, Downtown is simply becoming what it always should have been in the first place! Why the former City Councils, Mayors or whomever allwoed it to get rundown in the first place should be considered criminal.

At least LA can recover from it's suburbanization since it still has it's streetcar grid layout. The rest of Southern California, however, is completely dependent on automobiles and in the very long distant future when oil supplies run low and personal automobiles become too expensive to afford for daily commuting, SoCal's sprawling suburbs will suffer.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by GatsbyGatz

At least LA can recover from it's suburbanization since it still has it's streetcar grid layout. The rest of Southern California, however, is completely dependent on automobiles and in the very long distant future when oil supplies run low and personal automobiles become too expensive to afford for daily commuting, SoCal's sprawling suburbs will suffer.

Perhaps way down in South OC and the IE an urban future is hopeless, but in suburban LA County and northern OC, almost every suburban municipality has a walkable core, ranging from large (Long Beach, Santa Ana) to medium sized (Monterey Park, Fullerton, Whittier) to smaller ones (Alhambra, Monrovia). So there is hope for car-light lifestyles in some of these areas if development can be concentrated around Metro stops or Metrolink stops.