Is Gentrification Ruining Los Angeles or Saving It? LA Weekly Article (San Francisco: section 8, apartments)

[bruhms]

economically yes
culturally no

[X14Freak]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

Once a neighborhood is gentrified, it's probably going to stay that way, unless we have an economic collapse. Which at this point would be nice so the housing and rental market gets back to normal.

This is definitely not true. Middle class suburbs are seeing a massive increase in poverty and crime. In the past, the opposite happened where inner city neighborhoods suffered a massive increase in poverty and crime. These things go in cycles and what's hot in the beginning may not be later. There is an article about this right now in the Washington Post about Prince George's County which is seeing a massive increase in poverty despite being one of the wealthier counties in America.

[disgruntled la native]

Originally Posted by X14Freak

This is definitely not true. Middle class suburbs are seeing a massive increase in poverty and crime. In the past, the opposite happened where inner city neighborhoods suffered a massive increase in poverty and crime. These things go in cycles and what's hot in the beginning may not be later. There is an article about this right now in the Washington Post about Prince George's County which is seeing a massive increase in poverty despite being one of the wealthier counties in America.

Anecdotal hyperbole... and we're talking about cities, not suburbs.

[StreetLegal]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

Anecdotal hyperbole... and we're talking about cities, not suburbs.

No, it is not. The suburbanization of poverty is a well documented trend. Researchers at Brookings have shown this with multiple studies as summarized in this Time magazine article from 2014 ("The Rise of Suburban Poverty in America"). And this has happened in small and large metro areas.

Brookings: 16.5m Americans In Suburbs Live Below Poverty Line

[BeatAngMoh]

Originally Posted by StreetLegal

No, it is not. The suburbanization of poverty is a well documented trend. Researchers at Brookings have shown this with multiple studies as summarized in this Time magazine article from 2014 ("The Rise of Suburban Poverty in America"). And this has happened in small and large metro areas.

Brookings: 16.5m Americans In Suburbs Live Below Poverty Line

Aren't places like Reseda an example of this? I mean when a place is 'hood it doesn't mean the residents are not white as they can be. I think starting in the '80s the area was sort of 'hood. Even John Cougar Mellancamp made a song about it. Freeways going through the front yard and Caucasians acting 'hood.

[StreetLegal]

Originally Posted by BeatAngMoh

Aren't places like Reseda an example of this? I mean when a place is 'hood it doesn't mean the residents are not white as they can be. I think starting in the '80s the area was sort of 'hood. Even John Cougar Mellancamp made a song about it. Freeways going through the front yard and Caucasians acting 'hood.

No, that was Tom Petty and the song makes no reference to Caucasians or anyone acting hood. That is quite a (disturbing) imagination you have there.

[radiolibre99]

Suburban middle class poverty is obviously a thing.

[disgruntled la native]

Originally Posted by StreetLegal

No, it is not. The suburbanization of poverty is a well documented trend. Researchers at Brookings have shown this with multiple studies as summarized in this Time magazine article from 2014 ("The Rise of Suburban Poverty in America"). And this has happened in small and large metro areas.

Brookings: 16.5m Americans In Suburbs Live Below Poverty Line

Here's where we're not on the same page. The suburbs were never gentrified in the first place. They were always middle class. So it's not gentrification being reversed.

I highly doubt those parts of DTLA and Hollywood are going to go back to the way they were in the 1980s.

[MordinSolus]

Originally Posted by wehotex

How do you figure that? Everything that I've read says that this entitled, lazy younger generation would rather live in a dump inside the city than have to actually drive to a clean suburb. They don't believe in any sort of sacrifice for themselves and family.

Just FYI, old guys have been calling younger generations lazy, dumb and selfish for thousands of years. It really just makes you look silly.

[IM90046]

Originally Posted by MordinSolus

Just FYI, old guys have been calling younger generations lazy, dumb and selfish for thousands of years. It really just makes you look silly.

Exactly
I can't stand that.