Poll: Most People Want County's Minimum Wage at $15.25 (school, wages)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

Read the LA times article

Yeah. And you go read all the other links.

[disgruntled la native]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Yeah. And you go read all the other links.

I provided a center left, mainstream, well-respected source, not some fringe blog. I might as well go posting Alex Jones or WorldNetDaily and passing it off as fact by your standards.

[disgruntled la native]

Originally Posted by MordinSolus

Give back my winnings to minimum wage workers? What? And if you can't argue the facts then just don't argue.

Yes back. You got your winnings - I'm sure it must be in the many millions because you say you dont' have to work - from millions of minimum or nearly minimum wage fools who got duped by the system.

[MordinSolus]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

Yes back. You got your winnings - I'm sure it must be in the many millions because you say you dont' have to work - from millions of minimum or nearly minimum wage fools who got duped by the system.

That's moronic. It's a lottery, not an investment. Everyone knows the odds.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

Visit San Francisco and see how much pricier fast food is than here!

I've been there countless times--there's barely any difference. Even Manhattan, with its pricey real estate, has plenty of cheap eats. I'm talking dollar menu cheap.

You'd be surprised at the revenue a business can generate when the average citizen has a healthy chunk of disposable income in his/her pocket.

[Huckleberry3911948]

That is strange I'm most people but don't think a burger flipper should be paid same as mental health counselor with a masters

[MordinSolus]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

That is strange I'm most people but don't think a burger flipper should be paid same as mental health counselor with a masters

Wouldn't a mental health counselor with a masters degree only making $15.25/hour be worrisome? Me personally, I think mental health counselors should make more than that. And where are mental health counselors with maters degrees getting paid by the hour?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

I provided a center left, mainstream, well-respected source, not some fringe blog. I might as well go posting Alex Jones or WorldNetDaily and passing it off as fact by your standards.

So you are saying that an article that does not support any conclusion, merely reports various issues to consider from both sides (which is what good journalism is supposed to do), and provides some random anecdotal stories for color, but which stories in no way represent any statistical studies or validations, somehow proves your ignorant position?

As I said: study the works of economists. And study history. Take note of things like what happens to economies in extreme income disparity conditions compared to the histories of what happens in balanced economies.

But you won't. It would require educating yourself and thinking with an open mind.

[disgruntled la native]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

So you are saying that an article that does not support any conclusion, merely reports various issues to consider from both sides (which is what good journalism is supposed to do), and provides some random anecdotal stories for color, but which stories in no way represent any statistical studies or validations, somehow proves your ignorant position?

As I said: study the works of economists. And study history. Take note of things like what happens to economies in extreme income disparity conditions compared to the histories of what happens in balanced economies.

But you won't. It would require educating yourself and thinking with an open mind.

I've studied economists, like Milton Friedman. We're not in extreme income disparity here. LA Times is considered a center left paper. Even they get it.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

I've studied economists, like Milton Friedman. We're not in extreme income disparity here. LA Times is considered a center left paper. Even they get it.

Milton Friedman is the reason we as a nation fell into the mess we have And the vast majority of other economists from all political persuasions now agree.

You haven't "studied economists". You have bought a load of crap from some AM radio dope that champions Friedman. One nut ball economist gets put in front of you and you buy in to it and now hold him up as an example of "studying economists".

As for the LA Times piece, as I just pointed out to you in my previous post: No, they didn't "get it" your way. Are you serious that you can't understand the article you linked?

First of all, it's a fair piece of oatmeal filler daily journalism - in that it fairly raises questions on an issue. It does NOT, however, arrive at ANY conclusion one way or another. Plain as the nose on your face, it doesn't.

Secondly, it IS NOT, by any measure, in-depth "investigative journalism", let alone an actual study.

If you don't know these differences you should refrain from posting links.