Get out if you can!!!! (Newark: real estate, housing, rent)

[music7lover]

Originally Posted by Jakehorror

Your right, I never in L.A., only visited. I know I am in for lots of surprises good and bad. I dont think I'm moving to some magical place where all my dreams will come true, I'm not that naive. I also realize the chances of me getting into the entertainment industry is slim to none.

Huh??? Why would you think that your chances of getting into the entertainment industry are slim to none??.. If you don't have a degree from a film school, then yes that statement could very well be true. But if a person takes a disciplined path with formal / informal study in music, film etc, something eventually materializes from it. I don't know if you stated your background in the entertainment industry or training.

[katenik]

Originally Posted by LASam

My guess would be street numbers.

does anyone know this with certainty? are these groups rivals with others with the same name but different (street) numbers?

[yogaroots]

People like this (corndog) will be unhappy and find the downside anywhere.

[ConfederateGhost]

Gang-Related Crime in Los Angeles County

You have a good chance of being victimized by a gang member in the city of LA.The number of gangsters is unlike any other city.I believe LA will continue to get worse over the next few years.The number of illegals is just huge and unlike any other city in the USA.The entertainment industry is being taxed out of California and I believe things are just not going that well as do many people who live here.Now of course if you live in malibu or pacific pal you do not see the same LA that you do in the valley.The air is filthy here and I do not get why anyone especially young people want to move out here.They have seen too many episodes of TV shows like the OC I guess.I agree with the original poster that southern cali is getting to be a toilet.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by PacificKamikaze

Gang-Related Crime in Los Angeles County

That survey is 13 years olf.

You have a good chance of being victimized by a gang member in the city of LA.The number of gangsters is unlike any other city.

Vegas? Phoenix? Both of which have gotten a lot of LA's gang members who are being priced out.

I believe LA will continue to get worse over the next few years.

I think some areas of LA will get better and some will get worse.

The number of illegals is just huge and unlike any other city in the USA.

You are aware more Latinos are leaving L.A. than coming in? The only group which is coming in more than leaving is Asians.

The entertainment industry is being taxed out of California and I believe things are just not going that well as do many people who live here.

Things aren't going that well anywhere in the US right now, or in most places in the world. This isn't just an LA problem.

Now of course if you live in malibu or pacific pal you do not see the same LA that you do in the valley.

Not just Palisades/Malibu/SM. There are a great number of other areas in LA which don't have gang problems and even more in which gang problems are minimal. There are of course a great number of areas which do have bad gang problems. In some of those, problems have gotten better, in some they have gotten worse. The increase in gang violence between 2005-2006 was driven by the huge increase in the Valley. On this side of the hill, it's pretty stable. You forget that the huge increases in rents and housing prices has driven out many gang types (as well as families with children of all classes - since the typical LA street gang relies on recruiting kids at schools, it will have a smaller recruit base as the number of kids decreases - recruitment of adults is uncommon.)

This is not to deny the possibility of LA going to complete crap in the future. Personally I think when the global warming crisis hits LA it'll dwarf all previous disasters and problems that the city's had to go through in the past, but that's not something you've touched upon.

[JackSparrow]

Originally Posted by PacificKamikaze

Gang-Related Crime in Los Angeles County

You have a good chance of being victimized by a gang member in the city of LA.The number of gangsters is unlike any other city.I believe LA will continue to get worse over the next few years.The number of illegals is just huge and unlike any other city in the USA.The entertainment industry is being taxed out of California and I believe things are just not going that well as do many people who live here.Now of course if you live in malibu or pacific pal you do not see the same LA that you do in the valley.The air is filthy here and I do not get why anyone especially young people want to move out here.They have seen too many episodes of TV shows like the OC I guess.I agree with the original poster that southern cali is getting to be a toilet.

1. I have never seen a gang member except when I've driven through rough areas; let alone been harassed by one.

2. The film industry is bigger here than ever before. If you understand the tax laws then you'll know that there is incentive to stay here. But since you don't know the business, I'll not waste my breath to explain why FILMING (not production) is happening elsewhere.

3. If it sucks, why not leave? Why waste forum bandwidth complaining. I am sure where you move will be a better place, right?

[majoun]

Originally Posted by JackSparrow

1. I have never seen a gang member except when I've driven through rough areas; let alone been harassed by one.

2. The film industry is bigger here than ever before. If you understand the tax laws then you'll know that there is incentive to stay here. But since you don't know the business, I'll not waste my breath to explain why FILMING (not production) is happening elsewhere.

In a previous post, Jack, you explained quite well why even with some cutbacks in film industry jobs, the sheer number of production facilities, the amount of available highly skilled labor to perform production related jobs, and the existing concentration of talent will keep LA as a center of the film industry for some time into the future, even if filming occurs elsewhere. Reforming the public education system here to ensure a supply of future workers to do these jobs will keep LA in the forefront of film production indefinitely. I personally believe the smaller number of big films made (as opposed to a larger number of smaller films) is not good for the industry, but the film industry is not going to go away from LA any time in the near future even all things remaining as they are. This stands in contrast to the deeply troubled music industry, which is fast pulling out of LA to the extent that soon it will no longer be a major presence here except in relation to the recording of soundtracks, as the conglomerates are centralizing all of their US operations in NYC (with a small presence in Nashville) and closing their west coast operations. At some point in the near future there will be no significant presence of the music industry in L.A., but the film industry will be a part of L.A.'s life and economy for some time. Thanks for enlightening me as to the whole story.

[monti]

Originally Posted by JackSparrow

2. The film industry is bigger here than ever before. If you understand the tax laws then you'll know that there is incentive to stay here. But since you don't know the business, I'll not waste my breath to explain why FILMING (not production) is happening elsewhere.

3. If it sucks, why not leave? Why waste forum bandwidth complaining. I am sure where you move will be a better place, right?

Owned again by Mr. Jack!

All you deserters - check out the midwest! 100k buys you a good ole house next to a big snowdrift. Have fun with: 7-8 1/2 months of 3 foot snow drifts boxing in your garage, which means time to get the shovel (anybody smell a HEART ATTACK?!) weeks upon weeks of cloudy depressing weather, being aggravated by the small minded locals (I'm supposedly "gay" because I 1. Don't watch sports 2. Wear D+G, Buffalo, and Dior Homme?)

Check your creativity at the door - the film (post) production community here is constricted to rotoscoping pandas shot on 4:1:1 DV for children's shows and making HOM furniture commercials in After Effects.

Makes sense, considering 6 months out of the year are !UN SHOOTABLE! and who knows when it's going to be cloudy, raining, or snowing - not like the dependable 75 and sunny of SoCal, where all I have to worry about is having my scrim and bounce boards ready.

Quick Article Blurb:

"It is this region, characterized by slow job growth and gathering problems in the automotive industry, that has stumbled first. In a business where outright price declines are rare, the Midwest was the first region in recent years to post a drop in prices - with median single-family homes down 2 percent in the second quarter from the same period in 2005.

Is the Midwest leading a national downturn? Prices were still rising in the South, West, and Northeast, although they too may show declines when the National Association of Realtors provides third-quarter numbers this month.

"Those [Midwestern] markets are being affected more by the economy itself ... particularly job cuts," says Brian Carey, an economist at Moody's Economy.com, which tries to model where home prices will go next in US markets. The coasts, by contrast, "had the largest housing boom ever basically. We're starting to see the downside come through now."

The regional and city-by-city differences reveal how, in real estate, it really is "location, location, location" that matters.

In the Midwest, home-price patterns are all about the economy and jobs. Cities such as Detroit, Cleveland, and South Bend are struggling even though they never had a big run-up. In other regions with stronger economies, the housing shift is driven by consumers adjusting to higher interest rates and by speculators who are now backing out of the market instead of bidding prices up."

Good luck moving to greener (or wait, gray/brown/whiter) pastures in the midwest.

Make sure to keep us updated, we expect to see smiles from ear to ear!

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by majoun

This is not to deny the possibility of LA going to complete crap in the future. Personally I think when the global warming crisis hits LA it'll dwarf all previous disasters and problems that the city's had to go through in the past, but that's not something you've touched upon.

How will global warming affect LA?

[Jakehorror]

Originally Posted by monti

Owned again by Mr. Jack!

All you deserters - check out the midwest! 100k buys you a good ole house next to a big snowdrift. Have fun with: 7-8 1/2 months of 3 foot snow drifts boxing in your garage, which means time to get the shovel (anybody smell a HEART ATTACK?!) weeks upon weeks of cloudy depressing weather, being aggravated by the small minded locals (I'm supposedly "gay" because I 1. Don't watch sports 2. Wear D+G, Buffalo, and Dior Homme?)

Check your creativity at the door - the film (post) production community here is constricted to rotoscoping pandas shot on 4:1:1 DV for children's shows and making HOM furniture commercials in After Effects.

Makes sense, considering 6 months out of the year are !UN SHOOTABLE! and who knows when it's going to be cloudy, raining, or snowing - not like the dependable 75 and sunny of SoCal, where all I have to worry about is having my scrim and bounce boards ready.

Quick Article Blurb:

"It is this region, characterized by slow job growth and gathering problems in the automotive industry, that has stumbled first. In a business where outright price declines are rare, the Midwest was the first region in recent years to post a drop in prices - with median single-family homes down 2 percent in the second quarter from the same period in 2005.

Is the Midwest leading a national downturn? Prices were still rising in the South, West, and Northeast, although they too may show declines when the National Association of Realtors provides third-quarter numbers this month.

"Those [Midwestern] markets are being affected more by the economy itself ... particularly job cuts," says Brian Carey, an economist at Moody's Economy.com, which tries to model where home prices will go next in US markets. The coasts, by contrast, "had the largest housing boom ever basically. We're starting to see the downside come through now."

The regional and city-by-city differences reveal how, in real estate, it really is "location, location, location" that matters.

In the Midwest, home-price patterns are all about the economy and jobs. Cities such as Detroit, Cleveland, and South Bend are struggling even though they never had a big run-up. In other regions with stronger economies, the housing shift is driven by consumers adjusting to higher interest rates and by speculators who are now backing out of the market instead of bidding prices up."

Good luck moving to greener (or wait, gray/brown/whiter) pastures in the midwest.

Make sure to keep us updated, we expect to see smiles from ear to ear!

Your first paragraph explains my feeling exactly on midwest living. I've come to the conclusion that some Californian's are just plain spoiled when it comes to weather. If they have lived in Cali or other warm climates all their adult lives then theres no possible way for them to even start to comprehend how much gloomy snowy weather effects your entire existence. We have Doctors here that are kept in business solely by the mental illness rates due to S.A.D (Seasonal Affective Disorder, look it up on wiki)
Our suicides from November to April are 3 times the national average. Some years are better than others. Most years from Novemeber 1st or so through April/May are gloomy with maybe a day or 2 (if your lucky) of sunshine. 6 months of depression.
Summer, good old Northen Indiana Summers! YAY!! 95 degrees and 98% humidity brings out swarms of blood thirsty mosquitos. Many people stay inside most the year here. We have alot of hermits. October is the only decent month, but everyone is out enjoying it too so everywhere you go your bumping shoulders like NYC.
It's just not a good place to live, and hey Cali haters, a little newsflash- You always complain of your air "quality", at least your state has laws acknowledging it, here cars can drive as loud as they want with little emissions. Trucks blow black soot and smoke and the police drive on by. Smokers also help fill the air to layer in with all the RV Industry pollution. Oh yeah another great thing about the midwest, we have more smokers than the west coast. Ever wonder why? Could it be all the stress from ice, snow, sleet and gloom? Or maybe it's because theres nothing to do. Ever been to Gary Indiana? I'm not far from there. Check out some pics of their air.
I've been pretty open minded to everyones opinions, and I'll continue to, but it's getting a little nerve racking hearing people who are used to sun 280 days a year and dont even know what a snowplow is on here bitching about pollution or gangs. I'll take that any day over this ****.