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Old 04-22-2015, 04:20 PM
 
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i don't like when immigrants try to get us americans to give a damn about **** that happened in their country.

the holocaust is different because we actually were involved in the european theatre.

america has nothing to do with the armenian genocide. take it up with the turks, not us.

Sorry but this is nonsense, the genocide the Turks committed against the Armenians and even the greeks should be recognised globally.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:24 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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Sorry some of you can't handle knowing how Americans feel. Denial is a river in Egypt and your can live there all you want, but after 3 years of putting up with that s**t in Glendale, the 909 is paradise. At least people are normal. As normal as you can get in CA. Still a little different from inland states but tremendously better than L.A. County.
I'm glad people like you live in dumps like the IE. That way you only infest places in CA nobody cares about.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:25 PM
 
Location: La La Land
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i don't like when immigrants try to get us americans to give a damn about **** that happened in their country.

the holocaust is different because we actually were involved in the european theatre.

america has nothing to do with the armenian genocide. take it up with the turks, not us.
World War I (WWI or WW1), also known as the First World War or the Great War, was a global war mostly centered in Europe that began on 28 July 1914 and lasted until 11 November 1918. The war drew in all the world's economic great powers, which were assembled in two opposing alliances: the Allies (based on the Triple Entente of the United Kingdom, France and the Russian Empire) and the Central Powers of Germany and Austria-Hungary. Although Italy had also been a member of the Triple Alliance alongside Germany and Austria-Hungary, it did not join the Central Powers, as Austria-Hungary had taken the offensive against the terms of the alliance. These alliances were reorganised and expanded as more nations entered the war: Italy, Japan and the United States joined the Allies, and the Ottoman Empire and Bulgaria the Central Powers. Ultimately, more than 70 million military personnel, including 60 million Europeans, were mobilised in one of the largest wars in history.

The Armenian Genocide: The total number of people killed as a result has been estimated at between 1 and 1.5 million. The starting date is conventionally held to be 24 April 1915, the day Ottoman authorities rounded up and arrested some 250 Armenian intellectuals and community leaders in Constantinople. The genocide was carried out during and after World War I and implemented in two phases: the wholesale killing of the able-bodied male population through massacre and subjection of army conscripts to forced labour, followed by the deportation of women, children, the elderly and infirm on death marches leading to the Syrian desert. Driven forward by military escorts, the deportees were deprived of food and water and subjected to periodic robbery, rape, and massacre. Other indigenous and Christian ethnic groups such as the Assyrians and the Ottoman Greeks were similarly targeted for extermination by the Ottoman government, and their treatment is considered by many historians to be part of the same genocidal policy. The majority of Armenian diaspora communities around the world came into being as a direct result of the genocide.

I'm sorry, you were saying?

P.S. Hence my previous post regarding ignorance of world history.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Bottom line, I don't consider them Americans nor do I consider most cities in the western El Lay region to be true indications of America or its normal lifestyle.

You need to be from somewhere like Iowa, Minneapolis, Ohio, Dallas, North Carolina, Missouri or places like that to be a real American. Sorry thats just truth and reality.
Minneapolis, the only US city which has problems with Islamists comparable to Europe?

I would much rather have California's immigrants than Minnesota's, and that includes California's Muslim immigrants
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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Just because there are some idiot punks of a particular ethnic group in a neighborhood somewhere does not justify maligning a whole ethnic group.
If socially inappropriate behavior was the sole criteria for judging a group of people, there is no doubt that Americans would come in way at the bottom of the list.
Your local anecdotal experiences aside, the senseless extermination of 1.5 million Armenian men, women and children pretty much fulfills the requirements of genocide. The Turks are pretty good at this since they did the same to the Greeks. If we can recognize the Holocaust, we should recognize the Armenian and Greek genocides at the hands of the Turks, and the Chinese genocide by the Japanese in the 30's and 40's.
That, however, would require knowledge of world history, a subject the average American is sorely lacking in.
The only reason the U.S. will not recognize the Armenian genocide is because it would offend their butt buddies the Turks, who allow America to keep bases in their country. This makes it easier to bomb citizens of other countries. Irony at its best.
I guess we're more concerned with which Kardassian most recently exposed or had something inserted in her a**hole than being members of an international community.
There have also been certain politicians who've denied the genocide due to Turkish pressure, like former Congressman, now Judge, Jim Rogan, and former Congresswoman Jane Harman.
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Southridge
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Half of my family lives in Minneapolis, any problems are highly localized. That place is lily white and corn fed.

And quixotic, then we had something called World War 2.

We won.
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Old 04-22-2015, 05:02 PM
 
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World War I (WWI or WW1), also known as the First World War or the Great War, was a global war mostly centered in Europe that began on 28 July 1914 and lasted until 11 November 1918. The war drew in all the world's economic great powers, which were assembled in two opposing alliances: the Allies (based on the Triple Entente of the United Kingdom, France and the Russian Empire) and the Central Powers of Germany and Austria-Hungary. Although Italy had also been a member of the Triple Alliance alongside Germany and Austria-Hungary, it did not join the Central Powers, as Austria-Hungary had taken the offensive against the terms of the alliance. These alliances were reorganised and expanded as more nations entered the war: Italy, Japan and the United States joined the Allies, and the Ottoman Empire and Bulgaria the Central Powers. Ultimately, more than 70 million military personnel, including 60 million Europeans, were mobilised in one of the largest wars in history.

The Armenian Genocide: The total number of people killed as a result has been estimated at between 1 and 1.5 million. The starting date is conventionally held to be 24 April 1915, the day Ottoman authorities rounded up and arrested some 250 Armenian intellectuals and community leaders in Constantinople. The genocide was carried out during and after World War I and implemented in two phases: the wholesale killing of the able-bodied male population through massacre and subjection of army conscripts to forced labour, followed by the deportation of women, children, the elderly and infirm on death marches leading to the Syrian desert. Driven forward by military escorts, the deportees were deprived of food and water and subjected to periodic robbery, rape, and massacre. Other indigenous and Christian ethnic groups such as the Assyrians and the Ottoman Greeks were similarly targeted for extermination by the Ottoman government, and their treatment is considered by many historians to be part of the same genocidal policy. The majority of Armenian diaspora communities around the world came into being as a direct result of the genocide.

I'm sorry, you were saying?

P.S. Hence my previous post regarding ignorance of world history.
What I was saying is in post #39

weird how you quoted me and didn't read it.
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Old 04-22-2015, 05:49 PM
 
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Half of my family lives in Minneapolis, any problems are highly localized. That place is lily white and corn fed.

And quixotic, then we had something called World War 2.

We won.
Not anymore.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...join-ISIS.html
Why Are There Jihadists In Minnesota? - The Tower - The Tower
For Somalis In Minneapolis, Jihadi Recruiting Is A Recurring Nightmare : NPR
The Islamic-Supremacist Enclave in Minnesota | Ordered Liberty


Quite a few threads about it on C-D, too.


http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...are-jihad.html

While I'm not Armenian, it's undeniable that Armenians have contributed a great deal to the culture and economy of California. They also have a long history in California. That is definitely not true of Minnesota's immigrants.
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Old 04-22-2015, 06:05 PM
 
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Bottom line, I don't consider them Americans nor do I consider most cities in the western El Lay region to be true indications of America or its normal lifestyle.

You need to be from somewhere like Iowa, Minneapolis, Ohio, Dallas, North Carolina, Missouri or places like that to be a real American. Sorry thats just truth and reality.
You mean 1955.. It's not 1955 anymore..
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Old 04-22-2015, 06:28 PM
 
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i don't like when immigrants try to get us americans to give a damn about **** that happened in their country.

the holocaust is different because we actually were involved in the european theatre.

america has nothing to do with the armenian genocide. take it up with the turks, not us.
Exactly. My father's family is Jewish and most of his side of the family died in the Holocaust except for his parents and an uncle. My father doesn't sit around crying about the Holocaust and neither did my grandparents who actually escaped Germany while the rest of the family was exterminated. It happened but they moved on and came to the U.S. and built better lives for themselves and family.
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