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Old 06-17-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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The thing is, $20/hr is really good pay in the Midwest- most are not even making that much. I am from the Midwest, just left 5 years ago to get out to the west coast. My wife and I combined back there were making about $50K/yr and we were doing better than many others we knew. Large numbers of people back there, even with the cheap housing, are barely getting by paycheck to paycheck. In fact I felt overall that people were even more "broke" there than I see out here on the west coast. Driving beat up cars, having to wait to pay certain bills until the next paycheck comes in, etc. You would think you'd see less of that back there due to the cheap cost of living, but the MUCH lower pay really makes up much of that difference.
So true!
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Old 06-17-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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First time I've ever ventured on the California site. Interesting...with just a couple of reads, I noticed there are those in California who think Arkansas and Oklahoma are a part of the Midwest, and the poster above, who said $20/hr is a good wage, certainly isn't speaking for anyone with a college degree. Certainly lots of stereotyping done here. Let's go with this....

Community, farmers face water cut-off after California drought decision | Fox News

I can't speak for the entire Midwest, but in WI, we do have a fair amount of water. I'm actually not posting this because I'm gloating...this is a serious situation. I'm afraid this will impact the future of certain areas...even more in the future than now. What is the solution? Clearly, there's not one currently in place.

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Old 06-17-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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First time I've ever ventured on the California site. Interesting...with just a couple of reads, I noticed there are those in California who think Arkansas and Oklahoma are a part of the Midwest, and the poster above, who said $20/hr is a good wage, certainly isn't speaking for anyone with a college degree. Certainly lots of stereotyping done here. Let's go with this....

Community, farmers face water cut-off after California drought decision | Fox News

I can't speak for the entire Midwest, but in WI, we do have a fair amount of water. I'm actually not posting this because I'm gloating...this is a serious situation. I'm afraid this will impact the future of certain areas...even more in the future than now. What is the solution? Clearly, there's not one currently in place.

Californians have not evolved in geographical knowledge at all of the rest of the US, why start now? Most of them still think the mid-west and even New England don't pay as much as "almighty" California.
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Old 06-17-2015, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Bothell, Washington
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First time I've ever ventured on the California site. Interesting...with just a couple of reads, I noticed there are those in California who think Arkansas and Oklahoma are a part of the Midwest, and the poster above, who said $20/hr is a good wage, certainly isn't speaking for anyone with a college degree. Certainly lots of stereotyping done here. Let's go with this....

Community, farmers face water cut-off after California drought decision | Fox News

I can't speak for the entire Midwest, but in WI, we do have a fair amount of water. I'm actually not posting this because I'm gloating...this is a serious situation. I'm afraid this will impact the future of certain areas...even more in the future than now. What is the solution? Clearly, there's not one currently in place.
Regarding the $20 per hour, I actually was referring to everyone- including those with a college degree. My experience was in Nebraska and South Dakota, where even for college graduates, unless you were in a high level type of job, you weren't seeing that kind of pay.

Oh, and you have far fewer college graduates back there (again, at least in the states I mentioned) than you see out here on the west coast, so that partly can attribute to so many seeming to be so "broke".
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Old 06-17-2015, 06:51 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Low only percentage-wise, not in total taxes paid.
I'd rather pay property taxes of $6,000 on a home valued at $600,000 in CA than pay nearly $14,000 in property taxes for a home of the same value in Illinois. But I don't know about you.
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Old 06-17-2015, 08:26 PM
 
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I'd rather pay property taxes of $6,000 on a home valued at $600,000 in CA than pay nearly $14,000 in property taxes for a home of the same value in Illinois. But I don't know about you.


Thankfully IN Illinois you don't HAVE to pay that kind of money to GET the same qualities of a $600,000 house in urban Southern California! Let's do a comparison!

Los Angeles, CA:

2448 Kings Pl, Los Angeles, CA 90032 is For Sale | Zillow

This is literally the only house for sale in LA, for your listed price range! Needs desperate TLC to even be liveable.

1991 year, 5 Beds, 6 Baths, 4,832 sqft

Price: $600,000, Property Tax: $11,488



Upland, CA:

1688 W Ponderosa Way, Upland, CA 91784 is For Sale | Zillow

2001 year, 4 Beds, 2.5 Baths, 3,157 sqft

Price: $625,000, Property Tax: $6,130


Oceanside, CA:


2528 Pahvant St, Oceanside, CA 92054 is For Sale | Zillow

2007 year, 4 Beds, 4 Baths, 3,334 sqft

Price: $599,000, Property Tax: $5,403



Riverside, CA:

17377 Blue Ridge Ct, Riverside, CA 92503 is For Sale | Zillow

2003 year, 5 Beds, 5 Baths, 3,878 sqft

Price: $599,000, Property Tax: $6,563


VS.



Chicago, IL
:

3333 N Odell Ave, Chicago, IL 60634 is For Sale | Zillow

2006 year, 4 Beds, 4 Baths, 3,000 sqft

Price: $424,900, Property Tax: $6,245

Well, seems the property tax is LESS in some cases even, AS WELL AS THE PRICE.


Aurora, IL:

536 Wingpointe Dr, Aurora, IL 60506 is For Sale | Zillow

2002 year, 4 Beds, 3 Baths, 3,067 sqft

Price: $229,900, Property Tax: $8,600


Wait, let's see what happens with the cost if you live in this house for 50 years!

$229,900 + ($8,600*50) = $659,900

(If you're still alive by this point in your life, I know you didn't spend as much as you did in California!)


Wauconda, IL:

1713 Napa Suwe Ln, Wauconda, IL 60084 is For Sale | Zillow

2003 year, 5 Beds, 3.5 Baths, 3,100 sqft

Price: $279,000, Property Tax:
$8,117

$279,000 + ($8,117*50) = $684,850

Need I even continue, please try harder.


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Old 06-17-2015, 08:52 PM
 
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First time I've ever ventured on the California site. Interesting...with just a couple of reads, I noticed there are those in California who think Arkansas and Oklahoma are a part of the Midwest, and the poster above, who said $20/hr is a good wage, certainly isn't speaking for anyone with a college degree. Certainly lots of stereotyping done here. Let's go with this....

Community, farmers face water cut-off after California drought decision | Fox News

I can't speak for the entire Midwest, but in WI, we do have a fair amount of water. I'm actually not posting this because I'm gloating...this is a serious situation. I'm afraid this will impact the future of certain areas...even more in the future than now. What is the solution? Clearly, there's not one currently in place.

Try reading through the thread before commenting. The reason there are comments about Oklahoma is there is a regular poster who couldn't make it in CA and now lives in Oklahoma and has a hatred of CA.

To the point where she is obsessed on the subject, when you point out that where she lives is tornado country and that the community she lives in was devastated by one, she denies it. A quick Google search shows it did in fact occur in her town.

She's right Oklahoma is cheaper, there are reasons for that.

And I'm glad you're not gloating, because most of the fruits and vegetables you eat are grown in CA. So what happens in CA in regards to drought impacts all Americans, in your pocket book as well as possible food shortages.
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Old 06-17-2015, 08:56 PM
 
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Thankfully IN Illinois you don't HAVE to pay that kind of money to GET the same qualities of a $600,000 house in urban Southern California! Let's do a comparison!

Los Angeles, CA:

2448 Kings Pl, Los Angeles, CA 90032 is For Sale | Zillow

This is literally the only house for sale in LA, for your listed price range! Needs desperate TLC to even be liveable.

1991 year, 5 Beds, 6 Baths, 4,832 sqft

Price: $600,000, Property Tax: $11,488



Upland, CA:

1688 W Ponderosa Way, Upland, CA 91784 is For Sale | Zillow

2001 year, 4 Beds, 2.5 Baths, 3,157 sqft

Price: $625,000, Property Tax: $6,130


Oceanside, CA:


2528 Pahvant St, Oceanside, CA 92054 is For Sale | Zillow

2007 year, 4 Beds, 4 Baths, 3,334 sqft

Price: $599,000, Property Tax: $5,403



Riverside, CA:

17377 Blue Ridge Ct, Riverside, CA 92503 is For Sale | Zillow

2003 year, 5 Beds, 5 Baths, 3,878 sqft

Price: $599,000, Property Tax: $6,563


VS.



Chicago, IL
:

3333 N Odell Ave, Chicago, IL 60634 is For Sale | Zillow

2006 year, 4 Beds, 4 Baths, 3,000 sqft

Price: $424,900, Property Tax: $6,245

Well, seems the property tax is LESS in some cases even, AS WELL AS THE PRICE.


Aurora, IL:

536 Wingpointe Dr, Aurora, IL 60506 is For Sale | Zillow

2002 year, 4 Beds, 3 Baths, 3,067 sqft

Price: $229,900, Property Tax: $8,600


Wait, let's see what happens with the cost if you live in this house for 50 years!

$229,900 + ($8,600*50) = $659,900

(If you're still alive by this point in your life, I know you didn't spend as much as you did in California!)


Wauconda, IL:

1713 Napa Suwe Ln, Wauconda, IL 60084 is For Sale | Zillow

2003 year, 5 Beds, 3.5 Baths, 3,100 sqft

Price: $279,000, Property Tax:
$8,117

$279,000 + ($8,117*50) = $684,850

Need I even continue, please try harder.


But you pay those property taxes forever!!! As long as you live there. Once the house is paid off, the price is of no issue, but property tax..........it like a never ending mortgage.

Toledo Ohio has nice property taxes and they don't kill you if it is an investment property like Michigan
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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But you pay those property taxes forever!!! As long as you live there. Once the house is paid off, the price is of no issue, but property tax..........it like a never ending mortgage.

Toledo Ohio has nice property taxes and they don't kill you if it is an investment property like Michigan
Did you not read the section about "in 50 years". If you're hiding some sort of fountain of youth, please share. I doubt anyone except those in their mid-20s AT THE EARLIEST, could afford a $600,000 house. Even if we upped the number to 100 years, California IS STILL more expensive.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:34 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Thankfully IN Illinois you don't HAVE to pay that kind of money to GET the same qualities of a $600,000 house in urban Southern California! Let's do a comparison!

Need I even continue, please try harder.
You forgot one MAJOR factor: most people here don't WANT to live in Illinois, so the rest of your comparisons aren't relevant.

(And our relatives in the Chicago area CHOKE when they open their property tax bills each year. Property taxes where they live are 2.2%, over DOUBLE what we pay here.)
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