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Old 03-18-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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They are making a movie about gentrifing Skidrow, you should check it out. This is the future of DTLA

http://youtu.be/3HxSRt3bqgM
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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One thing they could do is move some or a lot of the resources etc in Skid Row to other places....
Yeah I think they will end up either moving some of the resources elsewhere OR building additional resources elsewhere. California has budgeted more money statewide for the homeless crisis. I think a part of dealing with it is not to concentrate them in any one place to this extreme degree.
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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They are making a movie about gentrifing Skidrow, you should check it out. This is the future of DTLA

http://youtu.be/3HxSRt3bqgM
Clearly this is the future, and those discussions have been made quite some time ago. They are now coming into fruition. Investors are waiting for the opportunity to convert the SROs themselves. But they would need to move those people elsewhere.
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:57 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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The only thing that would help is the federal government intervening but that seems very unlikely to occur. Homeless unfortunately are at the bottom of the totem poll for our government.
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Old 03-18-2016, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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Move them to the Salton Sea. Their already accustomed to the smell and the fly's
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Clearly this is the future, and those discussions have been made quite some time ago. They are now coming into fruition. Investors are waiting for the opportunity to convert the SROs themselves. But they would need to move those people elsewhere.
The gentrification of skid row is very unlikely for a variety of reasons:

1. The SRO's are protected as affordable housing. Ten years ago developers had their eyes on them for conversion to hotels and/or market rate apartments. The city passed an ordinance 10 years ago preventing conversion of SRO's to anything but affordable housing. The majority of SRO's in LA (and downtown) are in concentrated in Skid Row.

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/n...4a41fac23.html

2. The so called "containment" policy which concentrated homeless services on Skid Row has been in place for decades and given the rampant NIMBYISM (Not in My Backyard) in LA, this is VERY unlikely to ever change. People are outraged about building high rises in Hollywood. You want homeless services dispersed? Not likely. DLTA/Skid Row will remain ground zero for the homeless for the foreseeable future.

3. The homeless issue is a political hot potato and nobody wants to touch it, not the feds, not the governor, etc. The city and county pay lip service to doing something but the policies, resources and political will required to make a serious dent in the issue are lacking.

Saving any major shift in the above items, don't hold your breath for any major changes on Skid Row.

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Old 03-18-2016, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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But to an extent the police already have taken action. The homeless are more contained IN SKID ROW, and don't spill out in the rest of downtown as much as they used too.
I disagree. There are more residents (non-homeless) and visitors in downtown than 10 or 15 years ago which creates a greater variety of people in Downtown.

The homeless are more spread around downtown (including the tent cities along the 110 freeway) than they used to be. Skid Row is still king. But the court rulings you eluded to earlier prevent any effective police effort at forcing the homeless to stay in Skid Row.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:41 PM
 
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The gentrification of skid row is very unlikely for a variety of reasons:

1. The SRO's are protected as affordable housing. Ten years ago developers had their eyes on them for conversion to hotels and/or market rate apartments. The city passed an ordinance 10 years ago preventing conversion of SRO's to anything but affordable housing. The majority of SRO's in LA (and downtown) are in concentrated in Skid Row.

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/n...4a41fac23.html

2. The so called "containment" policy which concentrated homeless services on Skid Row has been in place for decades and given the rampant NIMBYISM (Not in My Backyard) in LA, this is VERY unlikely to ever change. People are outraged about building high rises in Hollywood. You want homeless services dispersed? Not likely.

3. The homeless issue is a political hot potato and nobody wants to touch it, not the feds, not the governor, etc. The city and county pay lip service to doing something but the policies, resources and political will required to make a serious dent in the issue are lacking.

Saving any major shift in the above items, don't hold your breath for any major changes on Skid Row.
I see all your points and well
Said. However the state could decide to disperse them in San Bernandino in supportive housing for mental illness and downtown's billionaire developers and business interest are most likely lobbying for it. If advocates for skid row's homeless were powerful enough to stop this those people would never be there to begin with. Keep in mind cities like Chicago have destroyed housing projects and with federal assistance dumped the poor in working class small towns and suburbs. It is something LA would have to work out with the state and Feds, but it has happened in multiple cities.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I see all your points and well
Said. However the state could decide to disperse them in San Bernandino in supportive housing for mental illness and downtown's billionaire developers and business interest are most likely lobbying for it. If advocates for skid row's homeless were powerful enough to stop this those people would never be there to begin with. Keep in mind cities like Chicago have destroyed housing projects and with federal assistance dumped the poor in working class small towns and suburbs. It is something LA would have to work out with the state and Feds, but it has happened in multiple cities.
Well anything is possible. But I'd argue the above scenario of moving homeless or homeless housing to SB County is very unlikely. "Home rule" is very strong in California. The kind of regional and/or state coordination of which you describe is a political non-starter in California.

As for tearing down public housing, yes, that has been done here (outside of DTLA). But the SRO's are not a bunch of atrocious Cabrini Green-style housing projects waiting to get torn down. Many of the SRO's are privately owned and they are not atrocious.

The SRO's are actually very effective and efficient providers of affordable housing. The old school 1950's/60's public housing projects were atrocious. Nearly everyone wanted them to come down. That type of housing does not exist much in LA and certainly not in Downtown LA.

Again, anything is possible but it would be a sea change for what you describe to happen here.
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Old 03-19-2016, 12:31 AM
 
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I disagree. There are more residents (non-homeless) and visitors in downtown than 10 or 15 years ago which creates a greater variety of people in Downtown.
That poster was right.. i.e. tents were going up pass Broadway etc.. and Skid row was even more crowded... Now not so much..
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