03-28-2016, 08:26 PM
Location: Los Angeles
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When I first moved to LA the idea of driving anywhere for 30 minutes was unacceptable.
03-28-2016, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
ChristinePlovesME
Woodland Hills area...to Anaheim daily............terrible.
Why are you even doing this in the first place? The only logical reason I can come up with is you own a condo/home in Woodland Hills, you have been at the same company for many years and you're close to retirement, and they recently moved their offices down to Anaheim from where they used to be much closer to your home.
Other than that I don't get it.
I have never, ever done a commute in LA like that nor would I.
And FYI, LA isn't the only place with heavy traffic, in fact LA isn't even #1 in traffic.
Go back east and see what's it like, than add in the winter.
Don't blame LA traffic when you for some reason are doing a ridiculous commute. Heck even at 2am when the freeways would be wide open that's still quite a drive to be doing daily.
03-28-2016, 09:19 PM
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Yes, like others said...move, if you can.
03-28-2016, 09:23 PM
Location: somewhere
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seain dublin
Why are you even doing this in the first place? The only logical reason I can come up with is you own a condo/home in Woodland Hills, you have been at the same company for many years and you're close to retirement, and they recently moved their offices down to Anaheim from where they used to be much closer to your home.
Because that is where I found a job in my particular field....and yes own home around Woodland Hills area.......
I never said LA was only city with heavy traffic....all major cities have horrible traffic, but where I am working I cannot even take Metro link....that is why it does not work not matter the opportunity.
I had you answering me before, with snotty comments,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I will blame LA....some of us cannot find work down the street.
03-28-2016, 09:29 PM
Location: somewhere
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SpaceMonkyPunks
Yes, like others said...move, if you can. I think there are two camps of people in LA when it comes to housing: the (no offense) old-fashioned way of buying or renting a cheaper/larger/newer place further out, and enduring the drive. Or, the newer school way of moving into a smaller/older/pricier apartment in the city, sacrificing living space but sparing yourself that torture.
You are absolutely right and that seems to be the choice in all major cities......I always hated the valley for this reason and feel so sorry for people that have it worst and live in Santa Clarita etc....
A horrible commute with no central trans or subway system is unbearable and although LA has tried and there is Orange line now.....it does not help in all cases. San Francisco is much more doable and or course smaller area.
thanks for input
03-28-2016, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
ChristinePlovesME
Because that is where I found a job in my particular field....and yes own home around Woodland Hills area.......
No, it's your fault. I have had 5 different jobs in LA in over 25 years, and when I decided to change jobs the first thing I considered was commute. If it was too far, I didn't even bother sending a resume.
The only time I did more than a 20 mile commute, I took Metrolink. If that hadn't been an option than I wouldn't have changed jobs.
You couldn't find anything in your field closer to home? Find that hard to believe.
No one says you have to work down the street, but honestly what did you think you were going to face with that kind of drive?
Maybe, if you worked 9pm to 5am, and that's still a long drive.
You're like someone who buys a house by JFK airport and than is surprised about jet noise.
Come on, you had to know this was going to be awful.
03-28-2016, 09:46 PM
Location: Virginia
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Actually LA is back in the #1 spot for worst traffic. I believe Atlanta held the crown for a few years, but this was published just a few days ago:
TomTom Names Los Angeles as the U.S. City With the Worst Traffic - Fortune
Of course it is bad for your health. I think the mode of constant vigilance is worse than the sedentary part. It'd be one thing if you had to drive an hour and a half each way but there wasn't as much congestion; you could play your favorite music, set cruise control, and sail on. But with all the stop-and-go, tailgating, getting cut off, jockeying for position...your body probably thinks you're in a literal fight and releases stress hormones accordingly. Don't even get me started on the conditions of surface streets. I hear a lot of Angelenos say that all large cities have bad roads--those people haven't visited other large cities recently. Their roads still aren't as neglected as the ones here.
03-28-2016, 11:24 PM
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ChristinePlovesME
You are absolutely right and that seems to be the choice in all major cities......I always hated the valley for this reason and feel so sorry for people that have it worst and live in Santa Clarita etc....
If you really love the job, have you considered selling the house and moving closer? Of course I don't know your situation, but if you can profit or break even from the sale, maybe it could enable you to move closer.
03-28-2016, 11:51 PM
Location: TOVCCA
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Family member: 600 miles a week for 16 years. He listens to recorded books, mostly educational ones; it's like he has gotten another college degree. Says it gives him 'alone time.' Knows all the freeways, roads and shortcuts in the LA Metro. Remains unruffled in traffic jams, and has seen every kind of rude, unskilled, spaced-out, and distracted driver out there, every kind of accident, blockage, police action, road debris. Tells great stories. Runs on the treadmill every morning to beat the aches and is slim and fit.
03-29-2016, 09:40 AM
Location: somewhere
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seain dublin
No, it's your fault. I have had 5 different jobs in LA in over 25 years, and when I decided to change jobs the first thing I considered was commute. If it was too far, I didn't even bother sending a resume.
The only time I did more than a 20 mile commute, I took Metrolink. If that hadn't been an option than I wouldn't have changed jobs.
You couldn't find anything in your field closer to home? Find that hard to believe.
No one says you have to work down the street, but honestly what did you think you were going to face with that kind of drive?
Maybe, if you worked 9pm to 5am, and that's still a long drive.
You're like someone who buys a house by JFK airport and than is surprised about jet noise.
Come on, you had to know this was going to be awful.
Like I said it was due to my particular field and not finding work in a closer area..........yes I guess I was not honest about it.....thinking I could handle it, now I feel guilty. BUT nothing is worth the nightmare.....
The house has been owned for many years before area became so crowded..........so its not a good example about buying house near JFK and wondering about why there is noise..
AND you like to judge people without knowing full story..........
HAPPILY house is on the market to sell for a good price because it has caused me to turn down job offers.....like I cannot go to wherever because of house......
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People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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