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Old 04-02-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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If the above statement is true, are you sure you can attribute the alleged refusal of whites to move into black areas on "racism"? Might there be other concerns, like, for example, safety?
I'm Black and I avoid certain Black neighborhoods due to safety. Also some of them are too far away from job centers. Also there's no amenities. Also no good grocery stores like Whole Foods or Trader Joes.
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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I'm Black and I avoid certain Black neighborhoods due to safety. Also some of them are too far away from job centers. Also there's no amenities. Also no good grocery stores like Whole Foods or Trader Joes.
Yeah that's the thing. People are clueless about. All people generally want to live in safe neighborhoods with amenities ..unfortunately not everyone can afford those areas.
This is why a lot of people whether they are white,black,hispanic will chose to just move out of L.A or out of the state entirely to find somewhere affordable AND safe with amenities.

I don't know why people can't get this through their heads...and want to make it like it's a racial thing.

Yes the real reason hipsters are choosing to move to Silverlake over Manchester Square or Athens is because they don't want to be around black people ...it's not because they fancy themselves artists and want to be near music venues, vinyl record stores, art galleries and coffeeshops and vegan restaurants.

What a joke.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:02 PM
 
Location: where the good looking people are
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Integration usually is a result of the changing demographics of a neighborhood and is typically only temporary until one race takes over. The only place I have ever lived in where people actually actively integrate was in Sacramento middle class areas.
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Old 04-02-2016, 10:50 PM
 
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So whites aren't likely to move to black areas...yet you see quite a few white people in Inglewood and South L.A?

Also if whites are so eager on gentrifying Hispanic areas..why is East L.A still 97.1% percent hispanic ?

People live where they can afford. For example my area is a majority hispanic , but the whites that you see around here are mostly working class whites.

The focus should be more on income or wealth versus race.

Nobody , no matter what their race is will say "Gee , I'm having a real tough time deciding between living in Watts (high crime) , or Beverly Hills".

All white people aren't rich , and all non whites are not poor.

If you look at the data you'll see that it differs from perception.

For example we are always hearing about how a neighborhood like Echo Park is all white hipsters now , and all the hispanics have been pushed out.
The truth is that it's still a neighborhood with a hispanic majority
" Latinos still form the majority of the community, though the percentage fell from 69.8% in 2000 to 59.5% in 2010; Whites grew from 13.2% in 2000 to 23.2% in 2010; Asian population remained almost unchanged at 13.3% in 2010 compared to 13.2% in 2000;"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_Park,_Los_Angeles
Some leftists/socialists like to use non whites, especially Blacks as the beloved poster children of poverty or of their cultural war agenda. I agree that clearly there are issues there, but clearly there are wealthy Blacks and Hispanics. Los Angeles has quite a few minority homeowners, and as middle class working people they do not live a neighborhood just because white people move in.

Between Watts and Beverly Hills anyone who is rich for very obvious reasons is going to prefer Beverly Hills, for reasons of crime/safety, closeness to job centers, and amenities (restaurants, good grocery stores, doctors, hospitals, bars, shopping options, etc).
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Old 04-02-2016, 11:34 PM
 
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Some leftists/socialists like to use non whites, especially Blacks as the beloved poster children of poverty or of their cultural war agenda. I agree that clearly there are issues there, but clearly there are wealthy Blacks and Hispanics. Los Angeles has quite a few minority homeowners, and as middle class working people they do not live a neighborhood just because white people move in.

Between Watts and Beverly Hills anyone who is rich for very obvious reasons is going to prefer Beverly Hills, for reasons of crime/safety, closeness to job centers, and amenities (restaurants, good grocery stores, doctors, hospitals, bars, shopping options, etc).
Someone could have a poverty kink (they're attracted to women in poverty).
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Old 04-03-2016, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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The percentage of the population composed of children under 14 years of age peaked in 1970 and has been declining ever since, which means a fiscal disaster awaits the state when you add in skyrocketing numbers of seniors and the skyrocketing social welfare costs which they will force upon taxpayers.
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Old 04-03-2016, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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Someone could have a poverty kink (they're attracted to women in poverty).
I guess in other words they're attracted to gold diggers, which most are common in LA.
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Old 04-03-2016, 01:00 AM
 
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I guess in other words they're attracted to gold diggers, which most are common in LA.
I think you've discovered the secret to Los Angeles. That, traffic and oppressive heat creates the SoCal experience.
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:30 AM
 
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The percentage of the population composed of children under 14 years of age peaked in 1970 and has been declining ever since, which means a fiscal disaster awaits the state when you add in skyrocketing numbers of seniors and the skyrocketing social welfare costs which they will force upon taxpayers.
And that is somehow relevant to this conversation because...?
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Old 04-09-2016, 12:52 PM
 
Location: all over the place (figuratively)
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It wasn't, but I can make it relevant. I realized the article and apparently the underlying research don't mention kids at all. Well, very likely the usual reason some neighborhoods quickly become Latino is the number of kids those people tend to have. Meanwhile, many young family-oriented whites probably won't move into neighborhoods where their children would in a sea of brown.
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