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Old 04-09-2016, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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It wasn't, but I can make it relevant. I realized the article and apparently the underlying research don't mention kids at all. Well, very likely the usual reason some neighborhoods quickly become Latino is the number of kids those people tend to have. Meanwhile, many young family-oriented whites probably won't move into neighborhoods where their children would in a sea of brown.
So you think young 'family oriented whites' are avoiding latino neighborhoods in L.A.. because they don't want to be around a bunch of brown people? Or more because they these neighborhoods in L.A tend to be higher crime and possibly worse schools and might not have the amenities that appeal to them.

I'm pretty sure they are looking at crime,amenities,schools , proximity to jobs rather than the color of the people living there.

Lot's of younger family orientated whites can't afford to live in majority white areas especially if they want to buy a home so they are moving to other areas if they want to remain in L.A .

They can't afford a house in a $1million+ neighborhood so they have to shop in a $500k or so neighborhood.
At this point in history a lot of those 'less expensive' homes are going to be in areas that aren't majority white.
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:53 PM
 
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Many of those white people with young families are leaving LA rather than living in mostly non-white areas. I'm saying that concern for their children - harassment, school reputation penalty, etc. - was totally missed by the article.
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Old 04-09-2016, 10:32 PM
 
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Many of those white people with young families are leaving LA rather than living in mostly non-white areas. I'm saying that concern for their children - harassment, school reputation penalty, etc. - was totally missed by the article.
A good number of white people with young families MUST stay in LA due to their careers. Suppose who had a good job in academia in LA? Or worked in the film industry? You can't necessarily just leave without having severe financial penalties to yourself.

Everything is going to be a cost/benefit analysis.
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Old 04-09-2016, 10:36 PM
 
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So you think young 'family oriented whites' are avoiding latino neighborhoods in L.A.. because they don't want to be around a bunch of brown people? Or more because they these neighborhoods in L.A tend to be higher crime and possibly worse schools and might not have the amenities that appeal to them.

I'm pretty sure they are looking at crime,amenities,schools , proximity to jobs rather than the color of the people living there.

Lot's of younger family orientated whites can't afford to live in majority white areas especially if they want to buy a home so they are moving to other areas if they want to remain in L.A .

They can't afford a house in a $1million+ neighborhood so they have to shop in a $500k or so neighborhood.
At this point in history a lot of those 'less expensive' homes are going to be in areas that aren't majority white.
This is something of a projection. A lot of gentrified neighborhoods do have young whites who have CHILDREN. This is true in LA and in other cities as well including NYC. If they get established in their careers and buy homes or get a decent deal on a rental they cannot just up and leave and go to the whitest area without severe penalty to themselves in terms of job/career and even in terms of distance to work/overall quality of life.

A lot of what the article referred to as resegregation had to do with displacement. As neighborhoods gentrify they become WHITER. That does not mean that white people are afraid to have kids in urban areas, and this blatantly isn't true of all of them.
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:41 PM
 
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I'm white and I'm buying a place in Santa Clarita because I can afford it, crime is very low and schools are great. I could also afford someplace much closer to work like Sunland, Sun Valley or Tujunga but they have more crime and horrible schools. I didn't pick one over the other because it's whiter but the fact is that it is..
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:18 AM
 
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A good number of white people with young families MUST stay in LA due to their careers. Suppose who had a good job in academia in LA? Or worked in the film industry? You can't necessarily just leave without having severe financial penalties to yourself.

Everything is going to be a cost/benefit analysis.

The gist of that surely is true, but I suspect many young people leave the entertainment industry when they start families (due to its typical low pay and instability) and therefore might as well migrate.
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:14 AM
 
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Many of those white people with young families are leaving LA rather than living in mostly non-white areas. I'm saying that concern for their children - harassment, school reputation penalty, etc. - was totally missed by the article.
Then why does it seem like a lot of Los Angeles is getting whiter, with all that gentrification occurring in non-white neighborhoods. Many of these newer people in gentrified areas call cops on older residents just because of their skin color. Ethnic paranoia just runs deep among them.
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:18 AM
 
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This is something of a projection. A lot of gentrified neighborhoods do have young whites who have CHILDREN. This is true in LA and in other cities as well including NYC. If they get established in their careers and buy homes or get a decent deal on a rental they cannot just up and leave and go to the whitest area without severe penalty to themselves in terms of job/career and even in terms of distance to work/overall quality of life.

A lot of what the article referred to as resegregation had to do with displacement. As neighborhoods gentrify they become WHITER. That does not mean that white people are afraid to have kids in urban areas, and this blatantly isn't true of all of them.
And a lot of it comes with increased racial and police harassment towards longtime residents.
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:50 AM
 
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The gist of that surely is true, but I suspect many young people leave the entertainment industry when they start families (due to its typical low pay and instability) and therefore might as well migrate.
The entertainment industry is a lot bigger than starving actors and behind the scenes jobs tend to be stable. And no the people who get established in their careers don't leave. If anything you had areas like Venice become wealthier and WHITER. And yes with more WHITE families.
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:53 AM
 
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I'm white and I'm buying a place in Santa Clarita because I can afford it, crime is very low and schools are great. I could also afford someplace much closer to work like Sunland, Sun Valley or Tujunga but they have more crime and horrible schools. I didn't pick one over the other because it's whiter but the fact is that it is..
You are one WHITE person. The general trend is for convenient urban areas to become more expensive and WHITER. Look at Hollywood, Downtown, Silverlake, Venice, etc. Gentrification is causing displacements and yes young white gentrifiers do have children in these neighborhoods as they become established and buy homes in them.

If anything the whites with more money prefer gentrified areas closer to a city's prime location. The poorer ones move further out!
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