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Old 04-03-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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I didn't know people got that mad about prop 13 and affordable housing.
What does this have to do with Prop 13?

This will just be spun in yet another sob story as some guy "down on his luck."
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Old 04-03-2016, 08:57 PM
 
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To those associating this with homelessness, I wonder how many people who are not homeless do that same thing?
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Old 04-03-2016, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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To those associating this with homelessness, I wonder how many people who are not homeless do that same thing?
Yeah I'm sure it happens all the time in DTLA, attorneys and other working people just randomly beating senior citizens almost to death on their lunch breaks.
If the security officer didn't stop him, he would have killed this guy.
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Old 04-03-2016, 10:49 PM
 
Location: California
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Someone mentally unstable, homeless or housed, is dangerous to the general population if they aren't receiving help. Throw in drugs and alcohol and it's a crapshoot as to whether their mental state can ever be stabilized. What do you do with people like that?
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Liberal Jerry Brown has been letting all of these felons out because he has his spending priorities bass-ackwards. Things like bloated government employee pensions and building a 200 billion dollar boon-doggle rail line is more important than building another prison.
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Someone mentally unstable, homeless or housed, is dangerous to the general population if they aren't receiving help. Throw in drugs and alcohol and it's a crapshoot as to whether their mental state can ever be stabilized. What do you do with people like that?
Yes I agree . People aren't anti homeless , they are anti having mentally unstable and violent people roaming around hurting or killing innocent people .

Unfortunately this city has been giving a pass to individuals they label as " homeless" but if a non homeless person exhibited the same behavior they would be locked up .
Imagine if a guy in a suit was behaving in public the same way many " homeless " do . Yelling and screaming obscenities and acting aggressively ? Or drinking in public etc?
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:59 PM
 
Location: OC, CA
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Yes I agree . People aren't anti homeless , they are anti having mentally unstable and violent people roaming around hurting or killing innocent people .

Unfortunately this city has been giving a pass to individuals they label as " homeless" but if a non homeless person exhibited the same behavior they would be locked up .
Imagine if a guy in a suit was behaving in public the same way many " homeless " do . Yelling and screaming obscenities and acting aggressively ? Or drinking in public etc?
Thank you for summing up my thoughts.

I help out plenty contrary to what some think on CD, but there is a thing

called............boundaries.........which have been rather grey for some time
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Yes also , you do see homeless in some other cities like neigborhoring cities outside of LA.. But they much different than the ones you see roaming in Downtown LA, or other parts of LA
For example in Burbank you might see some homeless but they aren't really bothering people.

Same in Pasadena ,Glendale or many other areas .

This is because these cities actually DO something about the issue and don't let stuff like this happen . The city politicians and the residents don't tolerate it
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:13 AM
 
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Someone mentally unstable, homeless or housed, is dangerous to the general population if they aren't receiving help. Throw in drugs and alcohol and it's a crapshoot as to whether their mental state can ever be stabilized. What do you do with people like that?
Give them treatment. If they refuse institutionalize them. And further address the root causes of long term homelessness.

California pre Affordable Healthcare Act had limited MED-CAL. You had to be under 21, over 65, pregnant, blind or the parent of 5 children. So this lack of insurance lead many struggle people with serious mental health issues with no real way of getting help.

That's a big reason there are so many homeless. Another issue is that the minimum wage was ridiculously low. At least that has been addressed by recent legislation. Other reforms need to be made to the criminal justice and social service systems.

Resources for homeless, including permanent housing need to be scattered across the state.

Lastly, if homeless people are given realistic housing options, ARREST those who do not want to comply with them. The courts are preventing cops from arresting people in those tents outside on the street on Skid Row. This should not be tolerated.

I was demonized by certain people for suggesting appealing and getting rid of the court ruling that prevents the police from taking action against the homeless people sleeping in tarps outside Skid Row. Clearly they are a danger and will remain so until they are dealt with on multiple fronts. And part of that has to be the police. Other changes in providing them with housing, greater assistance in applying for SSI, food stamps, and med-cal, for those who become stable refer them to job training or education, etc. For those that cannot get better they need to be placed in mental hospitals.

It is inhumane and unsafe to allow this to take place.
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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What does this have to do with Prop 13?

This will just be spun in yet another sob story as some guy "down on his luck."
Because many people, even middle class, can't afford their own home or rent and are going to the streets to get revenge on all the homeowners.
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