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Old 04-15-2016, 04:21 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Actually i've never voted for a conservative, so you're wrong . Self-awareness?....ok thanks. Being more condescending or insulting doesn't make you correct.
Right, you just share all of the conservatives' views without voting for them.

You're like one of those preachers that make up stories about how they used to be Satanic priests, offering sacrifices to Satan, in the hopes of bamboozling the gullible masses.
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Old 04-15-2016, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Right, you just share all of the conservatives' views without voting for them.

You're like one of those preachers that make up stories about how they used to be Satanic priests, offering sacrifices to Satan, in the hopes of bamboozling the gullible masses.
What stories did I make up?...It seems more like you are the one making up stories.
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Old 04-23-2016, 02:47 AM
 
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I take the Red Line regularly and don't understand why there isn't more security. They put the gates in a few years back but when I'm in the station I see large percentage of people jumping the gates. I would say about 30 % of people don't pay. Then I see people clearly high on drugs yelling and screaming in the stations. Then there is the people living on the trains with all their bags and belonging strewn across many seats. When I do see cops they are all together and talking about football or whatever. It's disgusting!!
Both security personnel and Deputies focus their attention to Fare Evasion on the mezzanine level while the mental is exposing his "manhood" with a big smile to everyone on the platform below.

None of those ninnies on the MTA Board ever take the Metro except on press days when deputies flood the stations and trains "sanitizing" the areas for the Mayor and County Supervisors. I've stumbled onto a few of those events, and let me tell you, those deputies are ready to pounce and shoot good citizens who get too close, and have scooped up the always present mentally dangerous in one fell swoop. So, those politicians haven't a clue as to the real experience on Subway, Blue, and Green.

McDonnell needs to bring some of that LAPD focus and discipline to the deputies who have literally gotten fat on the job, sloppy, and had no oversight and no expectations of performing to a high standard and behaving professionally in public, as well as losing their constant expression of apathy on their face. With the exception of a few, too many deputies patrolling Metro are just their for the paycheck. The contracted security guards are much more respondent to citizens concerns.

Are rail system is not so large that we can't change things in 48 hours. I hope that time comes.
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Old 04-23-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Bottom line is we need to stop being worried about the rights of the raving lunatic screaming obscenities and exposing his manhood and start being concerned about the rights of the tax paying public that had paid BILLIONS for this transit to be built to have a decent experience . The experience of the OP and others that have had negative experiences is not good word of mouth advertising . If people are causing a disturbance or acting threatening they should be removed, tired of this ACLU bs about " well the man might be yelling obscenities in front of kids and threatening to kill people ... But he had rights too!"

If the same behavior is exhibited by a mansion owning millionaire it seems it's not tolerated but if one is " homeless" they have a pass to behave in certain ways .

Billions and decades of time have been spent on this system I hope the city and metro can somehow maintain a decent experience for all .
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Old 04-23-2016, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Earth
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McDonnell needs to bring some of that LAPD focus and discipline to the deputies who have literally gotten fat on the job, sloppy, and had no oversight and no expectations of performing to a high standard and behaving professionally in public, as well as losing their constant expression of apathy on their face. .
?????
LAPD's less focused and disciplined than LASD....and way more lackadaisacal...
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Old 04-24-2016, 06:22 PM
 
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Bottom line is we need to stop being worried about the rights of the raving lunatic screaming obscenities and exposing his manhood and start being concerned about the rights of the tax paying public that had paid BILLIONS for this transit to be built to have a decent experience . The experience of the OP and others that have had negative experiences is not good word of mouth advertising . If people are causing a disturbance or acting threatening they should be removed, tired of this ACLU bs about " well the man might be yelling obscenities in front of kids and threatening to kill people ... But he had rights too!"

If the same behavior is exhibited by a mansion owning millionaire it seems it's not tolerated but if one is " homeless" they have a pass to behave in certain ways .

Billions and decades of time have been spent on this system I hope the city and metro can somehow maintain a decent experience for all .
Yes, those who go to work every morning to the job they hate and have the taxes taken out of that paycheck to fund all the services and initiatives spent on the dangerously metnall ill deserve to, at least, not feel afraid for their personal safety riding the Metro that we are encouraged to ride. And let's face it, society has made it very difficult for the police officers to do their job. That job is simply enforcing the legal codes of behavior on Metro rail and busses, not some sort of imaginary Walk of Tears or Japanese Interment of WWII. No, you may not consume food or beverages on busses or trains; No, you may not sleep across two seats; No, you may not expose yourself on platforms or in any portion of rail stations; No, you may not scream in the face of other passengers just because you have a mental illness; No, you may not behave in a dangerous or potentially dangerous manner, mental illness or not.

What the dangerously mentally ill need is REAL help and serivices, no matter how challenging it is to work with those who refuse to take the medication that helps them NOT to be a threat to others or work with those who prefer living on the sidewalks becasue they can do what they want or they are so ill they can't see the health and safety advantage of real shelter. Instead the Mayor and the County will be spending big bucks to, essentially, warehouse the dangerously mentally ill. In other words, just get them off the street and into apartments to appease the tax paying public who are growing impatient with the dangerously mentally ill population.

We are in a mess right now, and it is not the the fault of officers when command staff--as the word trickles down from the politicians--tell them NOT to patrol Metro looking for violations nor to inhibit the dangerously mentally ill, nor to have a presence as of to reassure well behaved citizens, and to just focus on fare evasion only. In addition, those who are dangerous can be quite mild-mannered for fair peroids which is why that they are released from observation if no indications of dangerous behavior are observed after 72 hours. I hope this changes before any more people are hurt like the Japanese 80 year old pushed off the platform to her death by a dangerous mentally ill or that man who was beaten to death dowtonw just a week ago for no reason by a dangerous mentally ill. But even those terrilbe events, and more, have not lead to any change.
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Default Los Angeles and the 'great American streetcar scandal'

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