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Old 09-06-2008, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Whittier, California
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Originally Posted by Drowningintherain2 View Post
Only caucasians can be middle class?
Of course not. If people want to be considered middle class, they should not live in all ethnic city like South Gate where there are no Whites in sight. More of a diverse city like Walnut or Chino Hills. Huntington Beach is becoming more diverse too. But, live wherever you want and can afford to.
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Whittier, California
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Question Middle class

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This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard on this forum. So you're not using the term "middle class" as an economic term, but as a euphemism for "white neighborhood". If so, call a spade a spade and say "white neighborhood".

Ignoramus.
If someone wants to be considered living in a middle class city, they shouldn't move to a city that is 99% ethnic like South Gate, where there are no whites in sight. Maybe a more diverse city like Walnut, Diamond Bar or Chino Hills. Huntington Beach is becoming more diverse. Income is not the only factor in city demographics and class definition.
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Whittier, California
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How racist can anyone be??????
Demographics and census tracking contain more than income in deciding factors in class descriptions. Don't kill the messenger.
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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The City of San Fernando (as opposed to the San Fernando Valley, most of which is part of the City of Los Angeles) is middle class and mostly Hispanic. Many of those families have lived there for several generations.

Lower class people come in all shapes and colors. Although I dislike my Mexican neighbors who scream at each other in Spanish day and night, I also disliked my white neighbors who would scream at their kids all day long (they have since moved). People's behavior should determine how they're treated.

I'd consider Santa Clarita to be more upper middle class, by the way.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:44 PM
 
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Demographics and census tracking contain more than income in deciding factors in class descriptions. Don't kill the messenger.
You know the OP wasn't looking for the "census" description of a middle class neighborhood, so why try to be the smart guy using textbook definitions of middle class? Why not just answer the question using what most people understand middle class to be?

Go to Cupertino, and try to tell me it's anything but upper class minorities.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:19 AM
 
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texasturkey,

Don't BS people here. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

The US census does NOT have an official definition of the middle class:

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/midclass/midclsan.html (broken link)

Next time, rather than trolling for Stormfront or the Aryan Brotherhood, do your research rather than spewing racist misinformation and calling it fact. If you want to get into a discussion about demographics, ethnicity and economics, you've barked up the wrong tree.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Los Feliz
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You know the OP wasn't looking for the "census" description of a middle class neighborhood, so why try to be the smart guy using textbook definitions of middle class? Why not just answer the question using what most people understand middle class to be?

Go to Cupertino, and try to tell me it's anything but upper class minorities.
Reading this thread I realized that I wouldn't know how to describe the middle class nowadays. A homeowner? Now it seems the middle class have either become upper lower or lower upper. Using these terms I would have to consider myself a part of the lower class but I don't feel that way. I suppose it depends on your lifestyle. After seeing the recent mortgage crisis it seems class is often a mirage in the desert of the American dream.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Burbank
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texasturkey,

don't bs people here. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

The us census does not have an official definition of the middle class:

Data Highlights on the Middle Class - Analysis (http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/midclass/midclsan.html - broken link)

next time, rather than trolling for stormfront or the aryan brotherhood, do your research rather than spewing racist misinformation and calling it fact. If you want to get into a discussion about demographics, ethnicity and economics, you've barked up the wrong tree.

+1
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:49 AM
 
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Okay, I'll bite. Let me declare some definitions.

The median household income in California is about $58k. So I define a neighborhood where most people make more than $58k is upper-middle class. I also define a neighborhood where most households make more than $100k as rich. As such, with a little data I got from the IRS, I declare the following neighborhoods to be upper-middle class.

City ZIP Income
ACTON 93510 72,996
ALTADENA 91001 79,336
ARCADIA 91007 73,443
BURBANK 91501 58,145
BURBANK 91504 67,610
BURBANK 91505 60,832
CANYON COUNTRY 91387 74,403
CASTAIC 91384 68,692
CERRITOS 90703 68,063
CHATSWORTH 91311 76,605
CLAREMONT 91711 86,293
COVINA 91724 61,627
CULVER CITY 90230 63,857
CULVER CITY 90232 73,694
DIAMOND BAR 91765 71,354
DOWNEY 90240 58,026
EL SEGUNDO 90245 79,778
GLENDALE 91202 66,696
GLENDALE 91206 59,530
GLENDALE 91207 98,319
GLENDORA 91741 86,788
GRANADA HILLS 91344 64,171
LA CRESCENTA 91214 72,088
LA VERNE 91750 70,995
LAKEWOOD 90712 58,334
LAKEWOOD 90713 58,856
LANCASTER 93536 58,894
LONG BEACH 90807 72,077
LONG BEACH 90808 68,949
LONG BEACH 90814 65,238
LONG BEACH 90815 76,238
LOS ANGELES Hancock Park 90004 58,486
LOS ANGELES Downtown 90009 58,104
LOS ANGELES Downtown 90013 71,368
LOS ANGELES Fairfax 90035 76,240
LOS ANGELES Park La Brea 90036 83,014
LOS ANGELES LAX 90045 78,436
LOS ANGELES Mt Olympus 90046 66,525
LOS ANGELES W Beverly 90048 86,066
LOS ANGELES Ladera Heights 90056 81,698
LOS ANGELES Mar Vista 90066 62,838
MONROVIA 91016 58,587
NEWHALL 91321 58,704
NORTH HOLLYWOOD 91602 70,259
NORTHRIDGE 91324 62,453
NORTHRIDGE 91325 60,848
PALMDALE 93551 63,237
PASADENA 91101 65,133
PASADENA 91103 70,174
PASADENA 91107 92,125
PLAYA DEL REY 90293 93,632
PORTER RANCH 91326 90,670
REDONDO BEACH 90277 95,547
REDONDO BEACH 90278 76,839
SAN DIMAS 91773 68,825
SAN GABRIEL 91775 64,077
SAN PEDRO 90732 72,119
SANTA CLARITA 91350 68,739
SANTA CLARITA 91390 89,709
SANTA MONICA 90404 93,587
SHERMAN OAKS 91423 95,624
SIGNAL HILL 90755 60,072
SOUTH PASADENA 91030 95,348
SUNLAND 91040 58,935
TORRANCE 90503 75,216
TORRANCE 90505 76,769
VALENCIA 91354 85,659
VALENCIA 91355 83,759
VENICE 90291 81,863
WALNUT 91789 78,627
WEST COVINA 91791 66,721
WEST HILLS 91307 82,977
WHITTIER 90603 69,151
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Whittier, California
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Question Middle Class

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texasturkey,

Don't BS people here. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

The US census does NOT have an official definition of the middle class:

Data Highlights on the Middle Class - Analysis (http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/midclass/midclsan.html - broken link)

Next time, rather than trolling for Stormfront or the Aryan Brotherhood, do your research rather than spewing racist misinformation and calling it fact. If you want to get into a discussion about demographics, ethnicity and economics, you've barked up the wrong tree.
Discussing demographics, middle class, incomes, ethinicities, populations is not racist. I never said I was stating a fact. I am not barking up a tree. I was not defining the middle class. I was discussing different factors of the middle class. Posters wanted to know which cities the middle class lived. That is all. You seem to know about the Aryan Brotherhood more than me, since you mentioned it. If someone like you is that sensitive about race to attack someone, they shouldn't be posting on a message board.

A person can live in an upper class city and have a low income.
A person can live in a lower class city and have a high income.

People can and live where they want to.
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