U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-15-2016, 02:44 PM
PDF
 
11,386 posts, read 9,855,948 times
Reputation: 6580

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRinSM View Post
I don't have strong feelings on this issue either way, but I do think it's appropriate to look at this issue from a macro perspective. As soon as you start focusing on individual anecdotes such as this hamburger guy, you start to lose perspective of all the people who will benefit from the higher wage. I'm not going to venture to guess whether the new wage will have a net positive or negative effect on the state, but that sounds like a more constructive conversation to be having.
This.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-15-2016, 03:02 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
3,196 posts, read 2,353,016 times
Reputation: 5262
This whole discussion is stupid. You could point to any number of small businesses that couldn't even afford to pay their employees more than $7 or $8 an hour. None of that changes the fact that a living wage is vitally important. Trying to make it about a handful of small businesses that may or may not go out of business is exceedingly stupid and myopic.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2016, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
24,172 posts, read 13,685,578 times
Reputation: 11373
It'll be more than a handful that will be threatened. Tons of small mom and pop places in L.A just like the one in the example I mentioned.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2016, 03:19 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
3,196 posts, read 2,353,016 times
Reputation: 5262
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm1982 View Post
It'll be more than a handful that will be threatened. Tons of small mom and pop places in L.A just like the one in the example I mentioned.
First of all, that's baseless speculation. Second, why should the labor force be held back on account of those businesses that are barely scraping by? There is no logic to that. Keep millions of people in poverty so a few businesses can stay open a while longer?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
24,172 posts, read 13,685,578 times
Reputation: 11373
Quote:
Originally Posted by MordinSolus View Post
First of all, that's baseless speculation. Second, why should the labor force be held back on account of those businesses that are barely scraping by? There is no logic to that. Keep millions of people in poverty so a few businesses can stay open a while longer?
No you are right...much better to have empty and vacant storefronts!

You really think it's only a 'few businesses' that will have difficulty paying $15hr?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2016, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
2,921 posts, read 1,781,859 times
Reputation: 2450
And that's 45,000 a year BEFORE taxes! Not even worth the risk of getting sued.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2016, 03:28 PM
 
4,498 posts, read 2,767,476 times
Reputation: 6554
Good thing CA has such a huge illegal workforce that will gladly work for $5/hr and take the jobs from the greedy $15/hr min wagers
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2016, 03:46 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
3,196 posts, read 2,353,016 times
Reputation: 5262
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm1982 View Post
No you are right...much better to have empty and vacant storefronts!

You really think it's only a 'few businesses' that will have difficulty paying $15hr?
Present some facts or just stop presenting speculation as fact. All you're doing right now is parroting corporate talking points like a good little shill.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
24,172 posts, read 13,685,578 times
Reputation: 11373
I presented facts already.....corporate talking points?...
How is it 'speculation' I showed an example of what a lot of these small businesses are making ...or more specifically how little they are making.
The reality of the situation.
The guy is really greedy making $45,000 a year running his burger place with 3 employees.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-15-2016, 03:55 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
3,196 posts, read 2,353,016 times
Reputation: 5262
No, you provided a single anecdote. Not even worhty of being called anecdotal evidence. I know conservatives such as yourself have very little interest in facts or data, but you're not meeting your burden of proof.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Options
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2016 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top