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Old 04-23-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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What difference does it make who it is? It's speculative O-P-I-N-I-O-N. It could be the man in the moon or Jesus Christ and it would still be opinion without substantiation.
Ok...but that's just YOUR opinion.

Of course you will never consider a source credible enough unless it agrees with your viewpoint.
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Old 04-23-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Ok...but that's just YOUR opinion.

Of course you will never consider a source credible enough unless it agrees with your viewpoint.
No. It's not an opinion. It's factual observation. That you wrote this is evidence that you haven't the slightest grasp of the difference between fact and opinion.

Credible source from you? Try me. Show me rational analysis based on data and fact. You haven't done it so far so how would you know what I'll accept?
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Old 04-23-2016, 12:15 PM
 
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Everytime I hear this minimum wage discussion, it makes me instantly think of my local 7/11 Store. Here goes....

There is a 7/11 Store, 50 yds down the street from me. Been going there now, nearly everyday for 8 years. I know the owner & his wife by name. They both seem like good people. Id imagine their workers are all paid minimum wage & 7/11 isnt exactly "cheap" when it comes to booze or a bag of Oreo's. MUCH pricier than WalMart.

That being said, every year, this couple are driving a new Benz or Lexus. Always makes me laugh. Personally, I find it VERY hard to believe that they STILL WOULDNT be driving a new Benz every year, even if they threw the kids a couple more bucks an hour.
Lease. Used for work purposes so its a writeoff on the taxes.

Why else do you think realtors in middle class neighborhoods drive $90K Mercedes and BMW's?

While I'm sure they do ok, I'm also sure they don't gross anymore than $150-250K a year as family income. And that doesn't really leave anything for them to give each employee a $10-20K annual raise.
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Old 04-23-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Some lease prices on new Mercedes starting at $329 mo
https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/special_offers/current


BMW starting at $320/month
2016 BMW 3 Series - Lease Offers - BMW North America

Driving a brand new Mercedes or BMW is absolutely no indication of being wealthy.

There are also sites where you can 'take over' another persons lease and drive a new car without the downpayment cost.

Mercedes-Benz Leases

You can often get into a Mercedes or BMW lease it looks like for about the same price as a Honda .
If someone is driving a new Honda, they usually don't think Oh wow they must be rolling in dough.
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Old 04-23-2016, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Anaheim
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$21 an hour? Good way to shoot ourselves in the foot. Not only would that prompt less staff - and less people employed - but we would find major increase in robotics. Don't know if others on here are aware of it, but there is high-tech effort to replace people with more robotics in fast-food restaurants, and I foresee a lot of them jumping on it.
Yup. A local Carl's Jr. already has touch screens for customer orders. The day I was in there it wasn't working very well, but.....
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Old 04-23-2016, 02:03 PM
 
Location: West Coast
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We get it. Some of you are commies and like to have the government fix everything for you. Cool.
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Old 04-23-2016, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Anaheim
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We get it. Some of you are commies and like to have the government fix everything for you. Cool.
To whom are you responding?
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Yup. A local Carl's Jr. already has touch screens for customer orders. The day I was in there it wasn't working very well, but.....
I've seen a Wendy's like that too . I tried it once and it worked . You can actually order from your phone and have the food ready too .. Last time I tried to use it the Staff said it wasn't working ... Makes you wonder .. They probably realize the technology could eliminate their job .
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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No. It's not an opinion. It's factual observation. That you wrote this is evidence that you haven't the slightest grasp of the difference between fact and opinion.

Credible source from you? Try me. Show me rational analysis based on data and fact. You haven't done it so far so how would you know what I'll accept?
I've already done that but what's the point .

You said you wouldn't even believe Jesus Christ
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Old 04-23-2016, 06:29 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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I've already done that but what's the point .

You said you wouldn't even believe Jesus Christ
Um no, jm. To both your statements.
You haven't done it.
And I didn't say I wouldn't believe Jesus Christ. I said, opinion is not fact, whether it comes from the man in the moon or Jesus Christ. Opinion from Jesus would still be just opinion. Now, if he were to resurrect, with facts, and present them logically, then we could have a meaningful conversation.

Over and out jm.
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