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Old 05-01-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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How is saying things like I've seen on some online blogs that the goal for Mexicans is to take over California and Texas though (trying to get their territory back). or making statements like "the Valley is expensive" not advising people and giving advice and your opinion? And who listens to blogs?

What "Mexicans" are you even talking about? I know several Mexican American families here who are 3rd and 4th generation American(born in CA), do you mean them?

I pointed out to you that the Valley has areas that vary greatly in regards to income level, you ignored that, because it took the air out of your "the Valley is expensive" comment.

You don't understand how people who live here get annoyed with somone who makes blanket statements(that aren't true) who has never lived here? It's not that hard of a concept if you think about it.

No one is attacking you, we are pointing out the fact that you have never lived here. You have visited, it's not the same. Not even close.
If someone speaks on their experiences and data/information gathered from online research, that is quite different from saying "I think you should do A, B, C."

My references to Mexicans pushing Blacks out of certain neighborhoods were in regards to the Mexican Gangs that take orders from the Mexican Mafia and the "La Raza" movement referenced in the articles that I posted. These are very REAL issues that have and are continuing to affect people that live in specific areas. My intent was not to make a blanket statement about ALL Mexicans/Mexican Americans but to address a specific issue concerning racial tensions amongst certain ethnic groups in certain areas based on factual incidents. Most people check into the cultural and socioeconomic climates of any place before they make a move anywhere. It is an honest question and sorry if it is not PC enough for you. I directed this question towards AAs/Black people living in LA because there are several online articles on it and because of my OWN experience of having a strange encounter with a (seemingly) Latino man staring my associates and I down while we went to visit the Watts towers. You two turned it into some huge issue that it was never intended to be.

Instead of being annoyed, how about being helpful to people who come into this forum seeking genuine answers? This is the reason for sites like city-data. When anyone asks me about any of the many areas that I have lived in, I am going to give them the full unadulterated truth rather than getting angry and verbally attacking someone who choses to bring up a seemingly sensitive topic. I don't believe in sugarcoating problems.

Again, I never claimed to have LIVED in LA. There is nothing wrong with sharing one's experiences on an online forum whether or not someone has lived somewhere or was just a visitor. People do it all the time. I listen to people's travel experiences with an open mind to gain insight on various geographic locations and I don't negatively judge them just because my experiences may have differed from theirs.

 
Old 05-01-2016, 02:44 PM
 
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If someone speaks on their experiences and data/information gathered from online research, that is quite different from saying "I think you should do A, B, C."

My references to Mexicans pushing Blacks out of certain neighborhoods were in regards to the Mexican Gangs that take orders from the Mexican Mafia and the "La Raza" movement referenced in the articles that I posted. These are very REAL issues that have and are continuing to affect people that live in specific areas. My intent was not to make a blanket statement about ALL Mexicans/Mexican Americans but to address a specific issue concerning racial tensions amongst certain ethnic groups in certain areas based on factual incidents. Most people check into the cultural and socioeconomic climates of any place before they make a move anywhere. It is an honest question and sorry if it is not PC enough for you. I directed this question towards AAs/Black people living in LA because there are several online articles on it and because of my OWN experience of having a strange encounter with a (seemingly) Latino man staring my associates and I down while we went to visit the Watts towers. You two turned it into some huge issue that it was never intended to be.

Instead of being annoyed, how about being helpful to people who come into this forum seeking genuine answers? This is the reason for sites like city-data. When anyone asks me about any of the many areas that I have lived in, I am going to give them the full unadulterated truth rather than getting angry and verbally attacking someone who choses to bring up a seemingly sensitive topic. I don't believe in sugarcoating problems.

Again, I never claimed to have LIVED in LA. There is nothing wrong with sharing one's experiences on an online forum whether or not someone has lived somewhere or was just a visitor. People do it all the time. I listen to people's travel experiences with an open mind to gain insight on various geographic locations and I don't negatively judge them just because my experiences may have differed from theirs.
Mexicans vs black is a gang thing. I've never been to outside of the city of LA towards san bernadino but in la it's not that bad.

It's just blacks are leaving to pursue opportunities.
 
Old 05-01-2016, 02:46 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Yes beore 1965. We all know what happened.

L.A.'s 10 Most Expensive Zip Codes For Real Estate Revealed | L.A. Weekly

Once again, I said compared to other races. The income disapart between races is the most seen in california.


The disparity is not as big in other states.

It's kind of telling that the richest and most famous blacks still ahve to live in "black beverly hills."

I'm just saying that people in this thread saying **** like "oh race doesn't matter in socal" it's all about how successful you are. Well the communities shows that even the successful people are segregated.

lmao they actually make good money in LA. Way better than wannabe actors and comedians.
You are mixing so many stats and things together that are contradictory to things that you have posted on this forum before I don't know where to start bruh. So, we will just have to agree to disagree.

If you want to know how much this dude know about Los Angeles read this thread

Is Eastside of La that dangerous?

East La vs West La
 
Old 05-01-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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That's richest compare to COST of living.

150k in LA is like 250k in texas lmao.

ALso it says a lot of them are actors and musicians. Makes sense. lol

Dude I'm not denying that blacks can succeed. But everyone in this thread is telling this guy that race doesn't matter in socal lol. One of the most segregated areas in America. I have friends who are rappers in LA and doing well for themselves, but it is a very different class. You have rich famous blacks, then people in south central. The guy is asking about regular people.
Thanks for keeping it real.
 
Old 05-01-2016, 02:56 PM
 
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Mexicans vs black is a gang thing. I've never been to outside of the city of LA towards san bernadino but in la it's not that bad.

It's just blacks are leaving to pursue opportunities.
I appreciate this answer. The reality is that race can oftentimes affect your experiences in specific US cities. I even hiked up in the Pacific Palisades one time back in December and was told by a white woman to not go in certain areas alone and be careful of the gangs hanging around certain areas due to my race. Its just reality and I appreciate it when someone can give a candid answer on race relations without getting offended that someone would even dare to ask those types of questions.
 
Old 05-01-2016, 03:00 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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I appreciate this answer. The reality is that race can oftentimes affect your experiences in specific US cities. I even hiked up in the Pacific Palisades one time back in December and was told by a white woman to not go in certain areas alone and be careful of the gangs hanging around certain areas due to my race. Its just reality and I appreciate it when someone can give a candid answer on race relations without getting offended that someone would even dare to ask those types of questions.
So you listen to the guy who doesn't live here nor has ever lived here?

My head hurts.

Like, Look at the last page of this thread.

You'll just listen to anybody lol
 
Old 05-01-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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So you listen to the guy who doesn't live here nor has ever lived here?

My head hurts.

Like, Look at the last page of this thread.

You'll just listen to anybody lol
I don't know anyone on this thread personally so I don't know his background nor yours. Obviously any information obtained on this site should be taken with a grain of salt. But the entire point of this forum is to get personal viewpoints based on one's experiences and opinions. Obviously, all viewpoints come with some cultural/socioeconomic bias and this should be understood by those coming to sites like these for information.

I appreciated the way he addressed my questions/concerns in a pleasant manner rather than verbally attack me and resort to name-calling because I expressed an honest question. But again, I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to hold a civil discussion with you as you don't seem to either want or be capable of doing that. Good day.
 
Old 05-01-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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2015 Census Estimates: LA County has an estimated 10,170,292 people. LA County is 9.2% black. Which would leave about
935,666 black & AA alone in LA County.

Black % went from 8.7% in 2010 to 9.2% in 2014 according to the US Census Bureau.


Los Angeles County California QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Edit: This obviously doesn't count Neighboring San Bernardino, Riverside Counties, Orange County.

San Bernardino has 2,128,133 people and is 9.5% black or AA alone. So, there are about 202,172 Black or AA alone in San Bernardino County.


Riverside County has 2,361,026 people and is 7% Black or AA alone. So, that is about 165,271 Black or AA alone.


Combined LA, San Bernadino, and Riverside Counties would be about 1,303,109 Black or AA alone in the CSA. Imma just skip Orange County and Ventura Counties cause they are both like 2.2% black.
FACTS! I love them.
 
Old 05-01-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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Thanks for keeping it real.
Dude if you trust your ability then yes, but I'm just saying, black population in LA is dwindling. California becoming Hispanic white and Asian. the White people will always live near the beaches. Newport beach is like 87% white.

But just know that Cali schools don't have affirmative action etc. I don't see latinos fleeing california. I don't see Asians fleeing california. I just seems the state is more friendly to specific races.

I read an article where it read something about White people being surrounded by Asians and homosexuals, and this is their "ideal" of liberalism and diversity.

I can tell you are an educated black man. Not one of these people who would settle for being second fiddle to other races.

The jamils guy said I've never lived in LA, because I've never been to LA County? I was asking outside of LA and LA county but I was confused. He also made a thread called "I miss LA" so obviously he wants to make it seem as pro-black as possible.

Just look at the link of the top ten richest zip codes in LA. Then look at the demopgrahics of each one. That should tell you enough. The richest black neighborhood doesn't even make it in the top ten richest in LA.

As other posters have said, they do not plan to reside here. Maybe if you're 20, looking to have friends etc. To start a family?



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Originally Posted by jamills21 View Post
You are mixing so many stats and things together that are contradictory to things that you have posted on this forum before I don't know where to start bruh. So, we will just have to agree to disagree.
Okay all things being equal, blacks have the same opportunities as whites, East Asians, South Asians, Arabs, Latinos, and South Americans in Southern California. And OP doesn't want to go to south central and wants to have a striving business, I guess investors from other races will help. The income disparities between the races are not existent. Schools like UCLA and USC have strong black populations.

I said I've never been OUTSIDE of LA city. Never been to san bernadindo. EAST of Los Angeles was what I was getting at. Yeah I was confused about LA city vs LA county. But yes LA. YES LA.
 
Old 05-01-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NYtoDC View Post
If someone speaks on their experiences and data/information gathered from online research, that is quite different from saying "I think you should do A, B, C."

My references to Mexicans pushing Blacks out of certain neighborhoods were in regards to the Mexican Gangs that take orders from the Mexican Mafia and the "La Raza" movement referenced in the articles that I posted. These are very REAL issues that have and are continuing to affect people that live in specific areas. My intent was not to make a blanket statement about ALL Mexicans/Mexican Americans but to address a specific issue concerning racial tensions amongst certain ethnic groups in certain areas based on factual incidents. Most people check into the cultural and socioeconomic climates of any place before they make a move anywhere. It is an honest question and sorry if it is not PC enough for you. I directed this question towards AAs/Black people living in LA because there are several online articles on it and because of my OWN experience of having a strange encounter with a (seemingly) Latino man staring my associates and I down while we went to visit the Watts towers. You two turned it into some huge issue that it was never intended to be.

Instead of being annoyed, how about being helpful to people who come into this forum seeking genuine answers? This is the reason for sites like city-data. When anyone asks me about any of the many areas that I have lived in, I am going to give them the full unadulterated truth rather than getting angry and verbally attacking someone who choses to bring up a seemingly sensitive topic. I don't believe in sugarcoating problems.

Again, I never claimed to have LIVED in LA. There is nothing wrong with sharing one's experiences on an online forum whether or not someone has lived somewhere or was just a visitor. People do it all the time. I listen to people's travel experiences with an open mind to gain insight on various geographic locations and I don't negatively judge them just because my experiences may have differed from theirs.
And you were told by Jamills that La Raza isn't the reality of the majority of Latino people in LA. You mention some blog you read and take it as gospel.

I did try to be helpful, I explained now TWICE how your comments about the Valley were incorrect, did you acknowledge that and say "thanks, I was unaware of economic diversity in the Valley or how the areas vary in price", no you didn't. I not looking for a thank you, but it just shows you make statements that are inaccurate and when we point that out you ignore or argue the point.

Again, visiting a place is not like living there. You are making blanket statements on things you really no nothing about.

I visited London once, I loved it, but I wouldn't be telling people what it's like to live there or making statements about a place I spent 5 days.

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Originally Posted by jamills21 View Post
So you listen to the guy who doesn't live here nor has ever lived here?

My head hurts.

Like, Look at the last page of this thread.

You'll just listen to anybody lol
Of course, why listen to us. You were born and raised here, and I moved here in 1988. What could we possilby know?

People who visited or people who have never visited but get their information off TV shows that take place in LA, know best.
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