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Old 10-09-2018, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I think in a geographical sense, SGV is everything east of the 110 (where it ends), west of the CA-57, south of the mountains,and north of the CA-60.

However, despite Pasadena being physically in the SGV w/o any doubt, I feel like in terms of culture, Pasadena is very different from the rest of the SGV cities and kinda feels like an "understatement" to simply categorized Pasadena under the SGV...but just my opinion.
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:53 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Slight case of projection there? Who would care whether a city or area is within the city of Los Angeles or outside of it?
I actually care not exactly sure why I do, but I do. I guess it's just the way the valley feels so separate from the basin, but it's legit mostly within the city of LA.
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I bring this topic up because I have heard people refer to "cities in the San Gabriel Valley" that I have not really thought of as such.

For example, someone I knew would always say, "I grew up in Pico Rivera in the San Gabriel Valley." I have not considered this city to be part of the SGV, but rather one of the "Gateway Cities" of Los Angeles. Some place Whittier in the SGV as well. I (kind of) see why on that one, since part of the 90601 zip code is technically over the grade which separates the SGV from the coastal plain.

The way I understand the area, it consists of these cities/communities:

Pasadena
Altadena
South Pasadena
San Marino
Alhambra
Monterey Park
Rosemead
El Monte
San Gabriel
South El Monte
Temple City
Arcadia
Duarte
Bradbury
Monrovia
Irwindale
Azusa
Glendora
West Covina
Covina
La Puente
City of Industry

and, for the unincorporated communities:

South San Gabriel
Bassett
Hacienda Heights
Rowland Heights
Valinda
some other pockets between San Gabriel and San Marino, and between Pasadena and Arcadia

Not sure if Diamond Bar or San Dimas should be in SGV or the Pomona Valley. The change in area code can throw one off plus there is a rise in elevation in both cities compared to everything west of them.

All you in the know, please weigh in!

Thanks!
I was about to add San Dimas and maybe So Pasadena, but you do have it pretty well covered and you are right, I have trouble imagining anyone labeling Pico Rivera as part of the SGV
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The wikipedia page has it pretty well explained

San Gabriel Valley

Altadena
Alhambra
Arcadia
Avocado Heights
Azusa
Baldwin Park
Bassett
Bradbury
Charter Oak
Citrus
City of Industry
Covina
Diamond Bar
Duarte
East Pasadena
El Monte
Glendora
Hacienda Heights
Hillgrove
Irwindale
La Cañada Flintridge
La Puente
Mayflower Village
Monrovia
Monterey Park
North El Monte
Pasadena
Rosemead
Rowland Heights
San Gabriel
San Marino
Sierra Madre
South El Monte
South Pasadena
South San Gabriel
South San Jose Hills
Temple City
Valinda
Vincent
Walnut
West Covina
West Puente Valley

Considered both Gateway and SGV cities

Montebello
Whittier

In the Pomona Valley, but considered SGV by LA County

San Dimas
Pomona
La Verne
Claremont


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Gabriel_Valley
La canada, what the heck?
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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La canada, what the heck?

Its east of the hills that separate the SGV from the SFV so is in the SGV

Last edited by 55182; 10-10-2018 at 03:19 PM..
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Its west of the hills that separate the SGV from the SFV so is in the SGV
When you're driving westbound on the I-210 after the 134 merges in, after the Wilson Ave underpass, you see a sign that reads "San Gabriel Valley"...

So technically, the SGV doesn't actually start in Pasadena after passing Wilson Ave.. which means anything west of Wilson is basically not in the SGV...

but this is just if you wanna get real picky lol.

I personally would considered La Cañada part of the SGV just because is always group and associated with Pasadena..
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Old 10-10-2018, 03:18 PM
 
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When you're driving westbound on the I-210 after the 134 merges in, after the Wilson Ave underpass, you see a sign that reads "San Gabriel Valley"...

So technically, the SGV doesn't actually start in Pasadena after passing Wilson Ave.. which means anything west of Wilson is basically not in the SGV...

but this is just if you wanna get real picky lol.

I personally would considered La Cañada part of the SGV just because is always group and associated with Pasadena..

Geographically speaking La Canada is because technically a valley is defined as an area surrounded by mts/hills with a river running through it. The hills become the actual line. The hills there run up north through Linda Vista but take a northwest path just about the Rose Bowl. They then separate La Canada on the east side from La Crescenta on the west. I have honestly never paid attention to any signage up on the 210 through La Canada by Devils Gate Dam/JPL so my be something up there. Maybe not, it is Caltrans. LOL.
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:05 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Its east of the hills that separate the SGV from the SFV so is in the SGV
Hills, valleys, freeways, zip codes, area codes, culture, etc, do not separate cities within a geographic region. They are determined by U.S. Census Bureau data.

La Canada is not part of the San Gabriel Valley; it's part of Los Angeles County.

San Gabriel Valley - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:00 PM
 
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Hills, valleys, freeways, zip codes, area codes, culture, etc, do not separate cities within a geographic region. They are determined by U.S. Census Bureau data.

La Canada is not part of the San Gabriel Valley; it's part of Los Angeles County.

San Gabriel Valley - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times

What pray tell is the definition of a Valley then? A Valley specifically has a geographical definition. Please educate yourself on this matter. Cities are not separated into an area as much as an area is separated into cities. Zip codes very much separate cities from one another, if you examine zip code maps you will find they run along city boundaries. Look at Arcadia as an example, 91006 and 91007 cover the whole city and they do not cover areas outside the city boundaries. Valleys also are not limited by county lines but can and do cover several counties in some cases, depending upon location. and there are many maps of San Gabriel Valley some include La Canada, some do not. Some leave out Pasadena, which has been considered the crown city of the SGV and it is the cities slogan.



The city was founded in 1874 by Thomas B. Elliott as Indiana Colony; the name Pasadena, a Chippewa word meaning “crown of the valley,” was adopted in 1875.


A valley is NOT determined by the census, LOL........ The census uses political division lines, which is what a county is, for the purpose of breaking data down to smaller usable pieces. . City boundaries are NOT determined by the census.



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/valley


https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/San_Gabriel_Valley
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:36 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Valleys also are not limited by county lines but can and do cover several counties in some cases, depending upon location. and there are many maps of San Gabriel Valley some include La Canada, some do not. Some leave out Pasadena, which has been considered the crown city of the SGV and it is the cities slogan.
Parts of Pasadena lie in Los Angeles County. Pasadena Profile - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times

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A valley is NOT determined by the census, LOL........
No one said anything about a "valley being determined by a census."

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The census uses political division lines, which is what a county is
Feel free to point those "political lines" out.
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