Should carpool lanes change to 3+ during certain hours? And make two lanes? (Los Angeles: vehicle registration, construction)

[69Charger]

The carpool lanes are getting awful, depending on the time of day. From 7 or 7:30, til 9 am and maybe 4 to 6, they should be 3+. And why do some of these freeways have such wasted space, like the 105, parts of the 210, etc...when a second carpool lane could be added!!!

[V8 Vega]

I wish they would open up the carpool lanes to everybody during non peak hours.

[Mr_Geek]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

I wish they would open up the carpool lanes to everybody during non peak hours.

Unfortunately they'd only be open from 2-4am in most cases then.

[Texamichiforniasota]

Originally Posted by Mr_Geek

Unfortunately they'd only be open from 2-4am in most cases then.

I'd be more generous and say from 11pm to 5am you could open them, at least in my part of LA, but I know out in some exurbs like Corona there is already a fair amount of congestion by 5am. I think making 2 carpool lanes or making the requirement 3 people per car is on stretches of carpool lanes that are congested is a good idea. That's the way it is on the 10. Since the gas tax and vehicle registrations aren't enough to pay for road building/maintenance anymore, they could think about converting them to HOT lanes like the 110 and 10 so they could pay for the construction/maintenance. Just like the 110, they could close it to tolls when it slows down too much.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by 69Charger

The carpool lanes are getting awful, depending on the time of day. From 7 or 7:30, til 9 am and maybe 4 to 6, they should be 3+. And why do some of these freeways have such wasted space, like the 105, parts of the 210, etc...when a second carpool lane could be added!!!

They should have done this years ago.

Carpool lanes are already 3+ in the Bay Area.

The more we can discourage people from commuting 100+ miles one way just to work in Los Angeles, the better.

[BRinSM]

this would do nothing for me as the 101 has no carpool lane through the valley. the only solution currently on the table that has the potential to reduce congestion in LA is the move to automated vehicles.

[adr3naline]

The next time you're out on the freeway next to an HOV lane, take a look at the type of vehicles and number of occupants in each. There's an astounding number of alternative fuel vehicles with single occupants. LA is providing great privilege to these people, which mind you has no correlation to the utility of an HOV lane, at the expense of traffic efficiency.

Just wait until the Tesla Model 3 hits dealerships in 2017 and the HOV lane becomes a moot effort.

[Mr_Geek]

Originally Posted by adr3naline

The next time you're out on the freeway next to an HOV lane, take a look at the type of vehicles and number of occupants in each. There's an astounding number of alternative fuel vehicles with single occupants. LA is providing great privilege to these people, which mind you has no correlation to the utility of an HOV lane, at the expense of traffic efficiency.

Just wait until the Tesla Model 3 hits dealerships in 2017 and the HOV lane becomes a moot effort.

The carpool stickers at this point, are good until Dec. 31, 2018 and the majority of the Teslas won't be delivered until much after that I'm guessing.

I'd say there's way more people just riding in the lane illegally than those with single occupant alternative fuel stickers. I see tons of single occupant vehicles that have no carpool stickers.

[Pennychaser11]

I take the HOV lane in my natural gas civic. I noticed on 105/110 and other similar interchanges, carpool lane is actually slower than regular lanes. Problem with HOV lanes is that people slow down to a crawl to merge into stopped cars causing delays. Also one lane HOV lanes are problematic when another HOV lane merge into one. They should have two HOV lanes so that merging cars do not have to funnel into one lane.

[adr3naline]

Originally Posted by Mr_Geek

The carpool stickers at this point, are good until Dec. 31, 2018 and the majority of the Teslas won't be delivered until much after that I'm guessing.

I'd say there's way more people just riding in the lane illegally than those with single occupant alternative fuel stickers. I see tons of single occupant vehicles that have no carpool stickers.

Musk is estimating to start delivering end of 2017, so the overlap is going to be tough.

Agreed about the illegal drivers. Tinted windows, visors down, hanging clothes, seem to be a common sight, simulating an extra occupant.