Carpool lanes

[adr3naline]

The majority of vehicles in the carpool lane appear to be electric vehicles, occupied by a single person. Drives me wild that we give these people a tax break to voluntarily purchase a new electric vehicle AND the privilege of passing those that cannot afford it.

Asinine.

[BRinSM]

Originally Posted by adr3naline

The majority of vehicles in the carpool lane appear to be electric vehicles, occupied by a single person. Drives me wild that we give these people a tax break to voluntarily purchase a new electric vehicle AND the privilege of passing those that cannot afford it.

Asinine.

i don't know where you're driving, but where i drive the carpool lane is rarely moving any faster than traffic in the other lanes.

[69Charger]

What really chaps my ass, is that they have all this room to double up the carpool lanes on a lot of freeways, yet it's wasted on medians that are too wide and space that is unused

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by 69Charger

Are you sure about traffic school? I thought getting caught in the lane was not a moving violation. I know that cutting the yellow lines is a moving violation, but not simply being in the lane by yourself. Am I wrong?

For a lot of people, a $500 fine is not a lot of money. If you're rich you can afford it. If you have a good job you can work a little overtime to pay it.

You're probably right on the moving violation.

Most of the very wealthy people I know here(including a TV actress) don't like parting with money....LOL. At times I have been taken aback about how "tight" they are. Even over buying minor items when they could afford to buy everything in the store and the building itself.

I think most of the people doing this are late getting somewhere and figure they will chance it, not that they're so wealthy they can throw money out the window.

Originally Posted by ryanms3030

I'm talking about weekday rush hour but yes I would say only 1 or 2 out of every 10 cars have more than one person

[Spikett]

I've seen it on the 405 in the mornings - and I've seen plenty of people pulled over for it. CHP actually sits up there and watches for it.

[adr3naline]

Originally Posted by BRinSM

i don't know where you're driving, but where i drive the carpool lane is rarely moving any faster than traffic in the other lanes.

Primarily on the 10, 110, 210. The car pool lane moves significantly faster. Maybe +20mph avg?

My argument is if we revoked permission for single-occupant electric vehicles, those that use the carpool lane in the traditional manner would have less congestion to fight.

[ryanms3030]

Originally Posted by adr3naline

Primarily on the 10, 110, 210. The car pool lane moves significantly faster. Maybe +20mph avg?

My argument is if we revoked permission for single-occupant electric vehicles, those that use the carpool lane in the traditional manner would have less congestion to fight.

Yep. On my commutes on the 5 the Carpool lane will be constantly moving at at least 40 mph while every other lane is at a standstill

[69Charger]

I disagree with the electric vehicle argument. It's a new technology and that is an incentive to get on board with it. Honestly, the cars don't sell that well, and you can acquire them for 150 to $250 a month. Just look at all the lease specials in the newspapers. Nobody buys these cars, everybody leases them, and then gets the state rebate as well. ( full disclosure, I have one and I'm not giving up my benefit)

This may turn into an issue with the Tesla Model 3 though however. That will be an affordable car, with a high range, and should sell in good numbers.

But for the most part, carpool lanes move faster than the regular freeway in most times and in most places. Only the busiest freeways during the busiest times get clogged up.

And it's no joke about all carpool lanes becoming toll lanes in the future. They have already discussed it, and the 10 and the 110 are pilot projects. The only way to unclog the lanes is to pull a Disneyland. You keep raising the price and so fewer people can get in

[ryanms3030]

Originally Posted by 69Charger

I disagree with the electric vehicle argument. It's a new technology and that is an incentive to get on board with it. Honestly, the cars don't sell that well, and you can acquire them for 150 to $250 a month. Just look at all the lease specials in the newspapers. Nobody buys these cars, everybody leases them, and then gets the state rebate as well. ( full disclosure, I have one and I'm not giving up my benefit)

This may turn into an issue with the Tesla Model 3 though however. That will be an affordable car, with a high range, and should sell in good numbers.

But for the most part, carpool lanes move faster than the regular freeway in most times and in most places. Only the busiest freeways during the busiest times get clogged up.

And it's no joke about all carpool lanes becoming toll lanes in the future. They have already discussed it, and the 10 and the 110 are pilot projects. The only way to unclog the lanes is to pull a Disneyland. You keep raising the price and so fewer people can get in

You can buy Nissan Leafs all day for like $6000 used. Nobody wants them. Eventually they will take away HOV exemption like they did with hybrids