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Old 02-26-2008, 07:25 PM
 
Location: West LA
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Any links where someone could learn about this stuff?
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Tampa, Fl
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Tampa's pollution has gotten steadily worse over the years too...going south on 275 you can hardly make out the buildings!! And we live in a flat-land!!

Of course I know it could never compare to L.A.'s problem...
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:35 PM
 
Location: West LA
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Tampa's pollution has gotten steadily worse over the years too...going south on 275 you can hardly make out the buildings!! And we live in a flat-land!!

Of course I know it could never compare to L.A.'s problem...
What you just described is worse than LA, how you you then, in the next breath diss LA?

Duh
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Any links where someone could learn about this stuff?
It was just trigonometry, but that assumes a vacuum. With atmosphere there is light diffraction which could mean someone could actually "see" on the other side of the horizon. The best way to check this out is to stand on the beach and look at a boat way out there.

Color - Diffraction And Interference
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:37 PM
 
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Default What stuff?

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Any links where someone could learn about this stuff?
Learn about what stuff? Air pollution - I just go to the EPA website - or google air pollution worst cities, and L.A. comes up. I'm glad it's better than it used to be though.


to learn about visual distances, just some basic geometry/physics.
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Los Angelkes leads the world in Anti pollution technology and that is why smog is almost a non-issue here. The smog level has been lowered by 50% in the last 25 years. In the 50's - the 70's you had many 3rd stage smog alerts (on a scale from 1-3, 3 the worst). There hasn't been any stage 3's in 15 years!
When I was a kid growuing up in Huntington Beach, you could see the San Gabriel mountains maybe 50 times a year.
NOW HARDLY a day goes by that you can't see the mountains!!!! At least 320 days a year. In fact Houston took the honors as most smoggiest in 2 separate years recently. And believe it or not Denver, also in a basin situation has horrific smog, worse than Los Angeles.
Many people mistake the normal ocean overcast moisture haze (fog) for smog here. It is blue and doesn't smell. Smog is yellow and brown.
That's really frustrating. That's ocean influence, HELLO!!
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Los Angelkes leads the world in Anti pollution technology and that is why smog is almost a non-issue here. The smog level has been lowered by 50% in the last 25 years. In the 50's - the 70's you had many 3rd stage smog alerts (on a scale from 1-3, 3 the worst). There hasn't been any stage 3's in 15 years!
When I was a kid growuing up in Huntington Beach, you could see the San Gabriel mountains maybe 50 times a year.
NOW HARDLY a day goes by that you can't see the mountains!!!! At least 320 days a year. In fact Houston took the honors as most smoggiest in 2 separate years recently. And believe it or not Denver, also in a basin situation has horrific smog, worse than Los Angeles.
Many people mistake the normal ocean overcast moisture haze (fog) for smog here. It is blue and doesn't smell. Smog is yellow and brown.
That's really frustrating. That's ocean influence, HELLO!!
All very true. I couldn't have said it better myself.
There haven't been any stage 3 smog alerts for a long time; there were quite a few in the 1970s and earlier.

The Los Angeles basin has a natural haze; many people confuse it with "smog" which it isn't.

Sure, there is some smog around, but it isn't as bad as many people claim and in some parts of L.A., the air quality isn't bad at all.
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:35 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Everyone has heard about the bad air of los angeles, I have been to Dallas many times and houston a few times, la, houston, and dfw are all in the top 10 most polluted metropolitan areas of the nation if I am not mistaken. I have never felt uncomfortable breathing dallas air...do healthy people have bad reactions to la air? can the la air impair your health (supposedly, breathing mexico city's air is like smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day), I know that la has much more stringent pollution controls, but is it health threatening to breathe it in?
Thank You

On any given day, you can see the air. How's that for an answer.

Can you see the air where you are?
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:40 PM
 
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Los Angelkes leads the world in Anti pollution technology and that is why smog is almost a non-issue here. The smog level has been lowered by 50% in the last 25 years. In the 50's - the 70's you had many 3rd stage smog alerts (on a scale from 1-3, 3 the worst). There hasn't been any stage 3's in 15 years!
When I was a kid growuing up in Huntington Beach, you could see the San Gabriel mountains maybe 50 times a year.
NOW HARDLY a day goes by that you can't see the mountains!!!! At least 320 days a year. In fact Houston took the honors as most smoggiest in 2 separate years recently. And believe it or not Denver, also in a basin situation has horrific smog, worse than Los Angeles.
Many people mistake the normal ocean overcast moisture haze (fog) for smog here. It is blue and doesn't smell. Smog is yellow and brown.
That's really frustrating. That's ocean influence, HELLO!!
From Huntington Beach, the San Gabriel mountains are barely visible most days. And yes, its yellow/brown. It takes a windy day to see the mountains clearly from here.
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:28 PM
 
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Default you have got to be kidding.

la has the worst air in the country. make no mistake about it.
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