Elon Musk says LA Traffic is driving him crazy - This is his solution (Los Angeles: neighborhoods, moving to)

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Lovehound

This discussion is getting more and more stupid.

Just a comment, if you are going to dig tunnels you might as well put in a decent subway system, not tunnels for cars to drive through.

Just think of the number of people transiting through the tunnel per hour comparing autos and subway trains.

What's your opinion of Europe's Chunnel?

[capoeira]

Originally Posted by CALGUY

Very simply put, when a vehicle is registered at the dmv, a day of the week sticker would be issued as well, and this sticker would be placed on the lower right side of the windshield, much like inspection stickers in many states.
On the day designated by the sticker, you could not use the vehicle.

That is a ridiculous idea and then I would have to have seven cars instead of the three I currently have!

[grega94]

Originally Posted by CALGUY

Let's face reality for a change.

I don't know, what are there, about 5 million vehicles on Los Angeles streets on any given day?

Perhaps more than that.

New roads are NOT the answer, but limiting the amount of vehicles on the roads, on any given day is the answer.
I have proposed this idea for years now, with no response from city, or state government, but one day it IS going to be the rule of law.

Very simply put, when a vehicle is registered at the dmv, a day of the week sticker would be issued as well, and this sticker would be placed on the lower right side of the windshield, much like inspection stickers in many states.
On the day designated by the sticker, you could not use the vehicle.
Obviously law enforcement, military, emergency vehicles, and medical would be exempt.

If caught driving the vehicle on the designated day it is to be off the streets, the fine would be $500.00
One would have to car pool, or take public transportation on the designated day of the sticker.

This sticker program would take millions of vehicles off the streets on any given day of the week.

In the early seventies, we had to ration gas, according to the sequence of numbers on the license plate.

None of us liked it, but we did it, and got use to it.
The same would apply to this sticker plan.

One day soon, it WILL happen, so best prepare for it.
There are just to many vehicles in this city, and state, and there is no money available for the mass construction of roads, and freeways that would be needed to handle the ever increasing flow of people to California.

When a Sunday afternoon trip that not many years ago too about an hour and a half, now takes, at minimum 4 to 6 hours or more, something is wrong.

Bob.

You are talking about road space rationing, it's used all over the world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_space_rationing

[Big-Bucks]

Los Angeles needs to use eminent domain to buy up houses along freeways so that they can be expanded. Give people 10 years to move out and pay them 1 1/4 times the value of their home.

[pvande55]

Originally Posted by Big-Bucks

Los Angeles needs to use eminent domain to buy up houses along freeways so that they can be expanded. Give people 10 years to move out and pay them 1 1/4 times the value of their home.

That was the standard operating procedure for many years, if not in LA, in many places. Added lanes just attracted more traffic, aggravated by the displaced now having to drive further. Providing new rail service is the better way to go, giving people an alternative.
Someone mentioned the Chunnel, which has an auto-train like service. Don't know if that would work for short intra city routes.

[Electrician4you]

Originally Posted by Lovehound

1.) Has anybody heard that Los Angeles (California) is earthquake prone?

2.) You can't just bore a tunnel under somebody's house or business property. You need to acquire the legal rights before you are allowed to do that.

3.) You can't get a heliport approved for a property for simply applying for it no matter if you have the room to land it. One word: zoning.

This is a stupid idea no matter how you look at it. Oh yeah, I'll just put a helipad on my roof. (NOT) Not even if you can afford the helicopter and pilot.

Same for the tunnels. You need legal rights before you bore under residential and commercial property, probably city/county property too (even if they are on your side).

Stupid idea.

Two words.

Eminent domain.

You can take whatever you said and throw it out the window.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

When we had "Day Without Undocumented People" or whatever it was called years ago, everybody across L.A. noticed an improvement in traffic flow. And I remember dozens of John and Ken listeners calling in and asking why every day couldn't be without illegal aliens on the roads so U.S. citizens wouldn't need to waste countless hours of their time commuting every day.

Really? Even with the white sheets obstructing their vision?

Originally Posted by Big-Bucks

Los Angeles needs to use eminent domain to buy up houses along freeways so that they can be expanded. Give people 10 years to move out and pay them 1 1/4 times the value of their home.

An idea so awful, only a Gump supporter could love it.

[Astral_Weeks]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

An idea so awful, only a Gump supporter could love it.

HaHa. True. The authoritarian streak in some Trump supporters is frightening. But the Donald thinks eminent domain is "wonderful" especially when it benefits him.

[pvande55]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

Rich in LA and does not own a helicopter. What a tech bro dweeb.

Helicopters are one of the most dangerous ways to commute. There was a concert promoter in northern California who went to various sites by helicopter which crashed and killed him.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill...licopter_crash

[CALGUY]

Originally Posted by capoeira

That is a ridiculous idea and then I would have to have seven cars instead of the three I currently have!

The way the dmv could "fix" the multiple vehicle problem is to issue the same day sticker to all the vehicles registered to the same owner.

Bob.