U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Covid-19 Information Page
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-18-2017, 07:58 PM
 
2 posts, read 1,345 times
Reputation: 10

Advertisements

I own a triplex of 1 bedroom units in Culver City, CA. My tenant, a single person renting a 1 bedroom unit, has her daughter living in the kitchen. She puts a bed in the kitchen every night for her to sleep on. I would imagine this has to be against some tenant code to have other people living in non-livable places in the house without asking permission and deliberately hiding it from me. Not to mention, it seems like a fire hazard.

Do I have any legal ground to stand on in terms of this NOT being allowed?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-18-2017, 08:06 PM
 
4,796 posts, read 3,769,770 times
Reputation: 7327
If you're the landlord don't you know the terms of the lease?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-18-2017, 11:23 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
12,021 posts, read 11,554,082 times
Reputation: 12317
Reminds me of some of the stories I've heard about "refugees" in Lewiston, Maine.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-19-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Downtown Los Angeles, CA
1,886 posts, read 1,626,651 times
Reputation: 2219
I wouldn't suggest relying on random strangers to tell you tenant codes. That's just not a good idea.

Aside from that, your question is a bit unclear. Is it just the mom and daughter living there? We both know that 2 tenants in a 1-bed isn't an issue...so I can't imagine that's your question. Does it really bother you that her daughter sleeps in the kitchen area as opposed to the bedroom, living room, den...etc?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-19-2017, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
25,304 posts, read 17,390,675 times
Reputation: 12220
Doesn't sound safe . Appliances could fall on her etc .

How did you find out about it ? a handyman mentioned it or something ?

I don't know if it would be grounds for eviction , but I'm thinking it should be documented so that at least there would be proof in case something does happen.

I'd ask the question on the BiggerPockets forum too , a great real estate investing forum .

Also a real estate attorney of course if you have one .
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-19-2017, 10:48 AM
 
4,362 posts, read 1,597,169 times
Reputation: 3796
Sounds like the daughter bis not on the lease. It also sounds like a code violation. You should really talk to a lawyer and kick them out.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-19-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Altadena, CA
1,596 posts, read 1,721,673 times
Reputation: 2996
If the daughter is not on the lease, she needs to be. She will also need to be approved based on credit report and criminal history. If she doesn't pass the background check on those, I reckon the landlord has the grounds to demand her to leave.

In the lease agreement, don't you have a clause in it that any other person older than 17 needs to be on the lease too? If so, the tenant is in violation of the lease terms and she risks being evicted.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-19-2017, 12:50 PM
Status: "My heart broke the day Leonard Nimoy died." (set 3 days ago)
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ and Redwood City, CA
10,868 posts, read 7,078,008 times
Reputation: 39589
Quote:
Originally Posted by minkman111 View Post
I own a triplex of 1 bedroom units in Culver City, CA. My tenant, a single person renting a 1 bedroom unit, has her daughter living in the kitchen. She puts a bed in the kitchen every night for her to sleep on. I would imagine this has to be against some tenant code to have other people living in non-livable places in the house without asking permission and deliberately hiding it from me. Not to mention, it seems like a fire hazard.

Do I have any legal ground to stand on in terms of this NOT being allowed?
I'd have to agree with previous posters: What does your lease say?

The rule of thumb re: # of occupants for most states is: 2 people to a bedroom plus one. So in theory, 3 people would be legal in your 1 bedroom unit. Legal but horrifying.

However, if your lease prohibits occupants that are not on the lease, you can tell her that Daughter needs to go.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-20-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: San Fernando Valley
240 posts, read 164,897 times
Reputation: 236
Agreed with everyone else above... there isn't' enough information. Fire codes usually allow 3 people for 1 bedrooms. So if it's less than 3 people then it should be legal. And most leases require everyone over the age of 18 to be listed on a lease, so if she's not a child, your grounds might be that (assuming she's not listed on there already). Check in with a lawyer to be sure. Manfredi Levine specializes in tenant law and I've always had good experiences with them.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-20-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Downtown Los Angeles, CA
1,886 posts, read 1,626,651 times
Reputation: 2219
Another thought...have you politely asked your tenant not to do this? There's no point in jumping straight to notices/legalities if you can solve the matter via simple conversation.

Please know that I'm not making an assumption about you, OP. In today's world people just seem to forget that they can be cordial and solve matters without making it into a "thing."
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2021, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top